It boils down to you thinking that everyone should have fun and play the game in exactly the same way you do. Your argument is if it’s fun for you it should be fun for everyone. You’re totally clueless about the fact that many people have a different idea of what is fun for them and make different choices
If this was a wide spread problem for many people than it should have been easy for all those people to not just join new guilds but make new ones. But it gets back to you ignoring the compromise posted here dozens of times. Put dual spec on a cool down and only make changes in a major city. Is your reading comprehension so bad that you don’t remember people posting that or are you a liar? I also don’t believe that hunters were required to have 2 raid specs in Wrath. I think you’re lying again.
Or alternatively it comes down to you thinking game rules and constraints should be removed or adjusted to suit your personal play style…
Your argument seems to be if it’s not fun for me it should be changed irrespective of whether the game is fun as it is for anyone else.
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He is, at most guilds were interested in if you had a dual spec but not as a requirement as it was mostly focused around figuring out how many tanks/healers would be available. And even in that case there was seldom any need to force dual spec as shockingly tanks/healers are the most likely to have dual spec just because.
What most likely happened is he wanted to show up in a bad spec and he was told to show up in a proper raid spec, which he’s now warped into he was forced to dual spec.
Of course not. If this wasn’t popular with most players it shouldn’t be changed just for me.
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If there are still shortages then the problem wasn’t exactly corrected was it? Seems like you need to think on things a little more. Telling DPS their wait time for dungeons goes from 60 minutes to hopefully 58 minutes because of dual specs isn’t exactly thrilling news
So it will just sorta alleviate the problem? How do you figure? Where are you pulling this from? All empirical evidence on this matter has shown that dual specs dont do anything except give players a more convenient and thus easier time playing the game. It never did anything noticeable to role shortages nor did it give pug players more options or drive up pvp/arena participation. Id call that propaganda.
Yeah, because I dont believe them. Why would I? They arent facing any real repercussions if theyre BSing me.
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Exactly same way I do? No
You have been given over a dozen options of how to get around Dual Spec, plan around the lack of dual spec to minimize costs, exc.
You are the one demanding the game change FOR YOU. Instead of trying trying one of the options given to you, or finding another game that is more to your taste of fun.
That is precisely what people do instead of using those options you think are so awesome.
You simply don’t understand that people are not obligated to play WoW beyond the point they find fun.
That’s not the most ignorant thing posted here but it’s close. Rarely has any change totally fixed a problem. It usually takes several successful changes to fix anything. Only someone complete unaware of history would claim one change should/would fix a problem. But then, reading books has gone out of style. Now days most people get their information from the other twits on twitter.
That’s not why you want it changed though.
You want us to play the game that you want simply because you think the game should be changed for you.
I also want to remind that we have absolutely zero reliable metrics that show that there’s some kind of crushing majority that wants it added.
You’re just assuming it based on…threads existing that are rife with opposition and support from pretty much the same 10 people or so.
Even the laughable polls that Delimicus offered show “No” votes in numbers of ~25% or even more.
If we take reddit/twitter polls as gospel, you’re basically telling Blizz to throw the finger to a quarter of their player base, which is absolutely ridiculous to suggest on its face.
Even less than a quarter of the population PvP, it doesn’t mean Blizzard will happily make changes that screw them over (though I suppose it’s arguable that they’ve done this so far in TBCC).
I think we understand this better than you do, I mean, that’s our main recommendation to you after all.
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Okay? And the exact same can be said about people opposed to dual spec.
Your reasons for not wanting dual spec are also 100% selfish. The question is whether more people want dual spec than don’t.
No it can’t lol.
We just like things the way they are, in a product promising to be exactly the thing without the thing you want.
It’s laughable you’d attempt to paint that as selfishness, haha.
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We have no absolutely reliable metrics to show anything about the game. Only blizzard has those metrics and they don’t release them. But you could do a simple test. Mention it in LFG. I do it often and have never seen a single objection and much agreement that it would improve the game. People will argue about a lot of things in lfg, for example the cross realm lfd tool provokes a lot of that. But dual spec doesn’t. You’re very much part of a fringe group among players of the game
You wouldn’t have to get dual spec. No one has suggested you be required to get it. I never got it on my hunter in wrath.
Your reasons for not wanting dual spec are also 100% selfish.
You prefer the game the way it is is a selfish reason.
I find your science to be lacking.
Well that’s just too bad. You could go back to retail, maybe? They have very flexible respeccing, with a system that expands upon dual spec to make it even better.
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Well that’s just too bad, if blizzard adds dual spec to TBC Classic, you could just go back to classic.
Pretty big “if” there, pal.
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Translation: You will never do that because you already know that it would be a popular change supported by the vast majority of players
But even if they do it’s fine for you since you can just go back to classic.
Only a fool with absolutely no knowledge of the game would say that. As if the only difference between Shadowlands and BC was the addition of dual spec. But you know that. This is just your way of dismissing all arguments that you can’t find an intelligent response to.