far beat for me For not wanting people to have to play a video game like a job It’s the same reason I never and still despise Is the rank 14 grind.
As far as newborn I’ve been playing this game sense vanilla 2004 So I’m hardly a new born I’m just not rose tinted.
It’s something’s bad it’s bad Or the lack of
People who turn games into jobs are the problem. Blizzard doesnt guarantee you fun time, just access to the servers. Having a fun experience is on you.
dual specs are like breasts you need two of them to play with or its no fun amirite homie
What’s particularly ironic about arguing that dual spec makes the game too easy mode is that from day one of vanilla WoW very intentionally positioned itself as the easy mode RPG.
Why are these people playing WoW in the first place if they want the hardcore MMO RPG experience?
That’s absolutely hilarious Looks like someone doesn’t remember the original reason why world warcraft was originally made.
Because here’s something to her remind you of something World of Warcraft was meant for the casual player base
Casual If you like anything at World of Warcraft original development it was meant for the casual player base.
Saying TBC circa 2021 is a job implies the game is “hard”. It implies that its so brutal, the lack of dual specs is preventing people from accessing content.
In the real world, TBC is far easier 14 years after release, gold is not even remotely difficult to come by (lots of people just buy it anyway) and dual specs are not realistically stopping anyone from doing anything they want to do.
Things just get easier with dual specs and TBC is already relatively easy. Things just get more convenient. Not necessary. Youre just lazy or think your game gold actually has value.
No no Now If I were to say something like lfd I could see you saying that Duel speck Is just lets you have player freedom to a reasonable degree.
Right and they made a casual game which got even more casual friendly in TBC (and Wrath and…) Maybe you werent around for the “epics arent epic anymore” threads that flooded the forum for most of TBCs original run.
Point is, the game didnt need dual specs then and it dont need them now. You think you need them but you dont.
Technically the game doesn’t need anything, but blizzard has made it clear QOL improvements are 100% on the table for TBC Classic.
It’s true that with a feature as big as dual spec it’s seems a lot more suited to a “TBC+” like the Season of Mastery.
Can call it the…season of the legion or something…
Correct.
No I’m pretty certain they did not “clearly” say they are invested in purely QOL improvements as the target for changes.
The way I remember it is they will attempt to tweak things that didn’t work, or would be incongruent for the modern times (WHILE “staying true” to TBC).
Not having dual spec is not such a thing. The game works, as you just so elegantly explained, without it. You’re just wanting to be lazy.
Dual spec is not a purely QOL improvement if it also stops people from quitting 
Not really interested in arguments that have absolutely zero evidence to back them up
Also weren’t you the one who said dual spec was purely a convenience? I mean, you’re pretty hard on the point that it doesn’t affect gameplay…
It’s hard to keep track with how much you flip flop.
In fact you posting is evidence that people don’t quit without dual spec
Same with you. So I just say you’re a liar. Makes things far more simpler than digging through your inconsistencies one by one.
Not really, my position on dual spec has been real clear and consistent, you just don’t like it, or equally likely simply don’t understand it
You actually have a tenable position, Ziryus.
It’s not cake. It’s not pie. It’s not a vegan restaurant. It’s not meat. It’s an effin video game. All these stupid analogies tell us nothing about the game and a lot about your intellectual level.
Oh no I was around for that an epic isn’t an epic anymore which is kind of hilarious to me.
Considering That was a thing even when aq20 and 40 Is released And even somewhat in ZG.
Every single time blizzard does some type of ketchup mechanism it’s always how important is the meaning of an epic It was always a stupid elitest mentality.
And my mind if you can get a group together to kill the content And have funwell doing it by the way you know fun.
To have no restrictions on playing your class Then again heaven forbid blizzard ever learns how to balance but you know that’s not here nor there.
And I find it funny you say it didn’t need dull speck it back then When people very much wanted it yes the dev’s Is made a blue post why.
However They do miss some things because I’m pretty sure they didn’t intend for us to stack drums either in fact they mentioned they wasn’t intended.
Nor wasn’t intended Is for us to switch Joel crafting and enchanting every single time we get a new ring or gear.
The list goes on there’s a ton of things that they didn’t intend but they didn’t fix until way later on
Another thing is it’s 2021 It’s not 2007 the way we play the game is a lot different back in the day you were either doing one thing or the other
Most people that pvp Didn’t PVE But then again we also Literally stomping the content the way we do now.
My point is maybe it wasn’t needed back then when the game you know wasn’t dying But Every single time I go into a chat if I go into a guilt chat I go into a pug the 1st thing I hear is.
Yeah we’re having really hard time just keeping a solid roster there has not been a time when I have not done a pug.
Where it has been a full 25 people It’s most of the time it’s 23 to 21.
I mean heck I did a ssc Pug with 24 And that was at the end So yeah The way things are I would say dual speck is very much needed.
Many of the people who want dual spec are tanks and healers who want to have a dps spec to farm. Something they avoid doing in a tank or healer spec. You’re just so wrong most of the time.
People were asking for it before it was added. It was a major request on the forums in original BC.
Technically it didn’t mean to do the drum changes or the same faction battle grounds but it doesn’t mean they weren’t Good for the game
I mean it made the game overall better and and it prevented a lot of other problems before it started but started but technically they didn’t have to.
And I would say the same thing with dual spec
Well, to get some vague understanding of what Bliz meant by “some changes” we have another increment of it to compare now. Classic Mastery servers. For these Bliz have committed to “#somemorechanges”.
Arguably they will make bigger changes to mastery servers than to TBC classic servers. Had a look at the classic Mastery beta… No dual spec there.