Dual Spec.. please?

Dual specs are a preference. No dual specs are a preference. TBCs preference is no dual specs.

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No, your preference for TBC Classic is no dual spec :slight_smile:

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It’s OK 1st off I think that’s a little far I mean just because they add dual speck doesn’t mean they’re going to add the token although if I’m being quite honest I’m surprised it’s not already in.

If I’m being honest I thought it was going to be end by phase too I mean @ we’re going I could definitely see it in phase for.

Besides don’t give them ideas knowing blizzard they may just put it in the shop You think I joke about that but I don’t think it’s above.

Then doing it You know I still go by the stands I think dual spec opens up choice and I think it would be a marvelous addition to the game.

No that’s your preference in your opinion We’ve seen plenty of proof to be the opposite

It will make this “recreation of TBC” less like TBC, meaning, it adjusts it further from what I was advertised.

That’s not conjecture. That’s an objective fact.

There is clear evidence that dual spec is against the intended design goals of tbc.

As in we have quotes from the devs at the time saying NO to any form of multi spec for tbc.

So it’s not “up in the air”…

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Blizzard explicitly said changes were on the table for TBC Classic and that they were not trying for #nochanges like in Classic.

That’s not conjecture. That’s an objective fact.

Doesn’t matter what the intended design goals were. Even those original developers made mistakes. Duel spec was added to solve a problem and it did that without any drawbacks.

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Not really I mean we still have the same raids the same classes Is the same heroics the same dungeons

giving people the freedom to Switch specs on the fly is not that big of a deal it’s really not

And The devs made several mistakes back in the day drums was never an intention and neither was world Buffs But that all happened.

It’s a pretty sure Didn’t intend people to switch professions every single phase or ever single time they get or ring Yet people did it.

And same faction battlegrounds would not have been in that design goal either You have to adapt with the player base on certain things.

And this is one of them

A mistake by definition is when something fails to do what it was intended to do - either by poor judgement or through poor execution. The design intent is therefore very relevent.

Even the person who came up with dual spec later claimed there were drawbacks. It’s a big claim to say there were none. An even bigger claim to say that the result in TBC will be exactly the same as in WoTLK which had major design deviations from vanilla and TBC.

Your claim boils down to “add dual spec because game design doesn’t matter and it is all good with nothing bad” - pretty flaky argument, no evidence, just assertion. You want it because you want it and you don’t want to consider anything else.

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I want you to show me the interview where they said dual spec had major drawbacks

I mean yeah there was drawbacks with the intended design later on when they gave us trice back but that’s because class design was entirely different.

And your talents Is mattered a lot less than your specialization that you chose Is that class design not the feature itself.

Keep in mind if the devs were perfect why aren’t we still playing 1.0? And why aren’t the people opposed to dual spec asking for 1.0?

Pro tip, there’s isn’t one.

The devs aren’t perfect which is why it is important to ask - is the feature behaving the way it was designed to or is it not? If not then by all means change and improve it. If it is well - isn’t that part of what we should consider a classic representation of this game?

I didn’t think there was that’s why I asked them to show me

Again with the amnesia - we aruged for the betst part of a month about the quotes in question. Now you claim they don’t exist … how you?

Before any features put in the game the one question that should be asked is this beneficial to the game if the pros outweigh the Khan’s which with dual respect is certainly the case.

Is that we have seen numerous proofs of There is no reason not to put it in

Make up your mind, is the feature behaving as designed originally or is the feature good for the game. In the case of dual spec, or more accurately lack of, pick one.

Not all features that behave exactly as designed are good. Once again see devs not being perfect, which you acknowledged.

I’ll dig it up for you shortly, to summarise he talked about dual spec and also other specialization mechanics (such as in Diablo) and talked about the loss of meaningful choice mong other things. I saw that as an unintended impact.

To be fair, some have overstated it as “regret”. I don’t read it that way. More that he realised there were good and bad things with the feature - trade-offs.

I’ll find the quote and put it in this comment for reference. There’s a few different quotes on the topic.

And where I found snips before:

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