Nope, if you want to rehash that argument, well you simply don’t understand the difference between dual spec and retail spec/D3.
Even if something is working the way it was designed to the devs can make bad design choices too.
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You don’t know how to discuss talent specialisation in a nuanced way drawing on multiple examples.
You see, your aim here is to convince rather than to understand. You don’t read comments that don’t confirm your bias for any reason than to find fault. So if something discusses dual spec and then adds other systems in by way of comparison you say “look irrelevant I win!”. Rather than try to understand what was being said and how that might reflect on the issue.
No no, 1.0 was the perfect version of the game, the devs are infallible, except when they fix their own mistakes… like oh you know adding dual spec.
You are free at any time to provide an actual in detail analysis of why dual spec would not work in TBC.
You have refused to do so. “It would be bad m’kay” is not a reason.
This is true. One instance where I have conceded this is with Arena spec. Back in the day Blizzard said the design was the way it was for a reason and that Arena doesn’t matter because it’s such a small population. I think this was short sighted of them. But, here’s the thing, you still need to justify the deviation.
Lack of dual spec simply doesn’t create the game play you think it does and that blizzard wanted, all it leads to is people logging out. Hence why blizzard decided to add dual spec during TBC due to issues they observed during TBC and that we are currently seeing in TBC Classic.
Sorry that’s just reality.
Oh look, another strawman! Who knew you’d try that ole tactic …
At least I’m not asking for space combat like you seem to think dual spec is.
Yeah technically you have a bit of a point however did you look at the date The reason he said that.
The expansion that was out at the time was mop And if you know anything about mop that was the point where homogenization was really bad.
It was honestly to the point where there was no class individuality whatsoever which is why they did pruning in wod So again that’s Is not the Feature itself Is its class design combined with the feature in that expansion for him to say that.
Because if you ever played Is a class in mop Is everybody had everything Is and way too many buds.
So yeah that makes sense but again that’s not the feature that’s the way classes end it up.
How will they prove you “think you do but dont” if they give you things that would make you happier in the game?
Yup With dual spec it would at least give people more reason to keep playing
I won’t disagree with the point that he said but you could make that argument just as much 4 duel spack As much as you could make against it.
And quite honestly everything else as well I mean we could hack questions of every existence why were talents even a thing in the 1st place if you want to go that route.
Would it have been better if they would have gone OK If you’re a paladin you’re a tank with some healing utility If you’re a Warrior you’re a tank but can do a little bit more damage to make them feel different like.
We could have that conversation that could go literally to every single aspect of how the game was designed
I would say it really depends It depends on the feature that we’re discussing and it depends on what the situation is as the situation is as well right now people are leaving the game.
And a big part of that is Is the barrier to entry to either side of the content is really really big.
The truth is most people do not do dailies and farm gold just so they can respect for something else.
That’s just fact
People do dailies and farm gold for multiple reasons. Having the gold to use it when they want to is one of those reasons.
Yes you are correct However It’s not specifically to respect I’m willing to bed if you ask most players And ask them Is why they’re farming gold respecting is probably the last thing on the list.
As in if dual speck was in the game those players would play No less Amount of time And I’m gonna point this fact out again because it’s getting worse now.
People are leaving the game
If people are leaving, then they got bored easily, and dual spec won’t fix that.
I will never understand statements like these that are just cutting off your nose to spite your face. It is a game, not a political position or ideological construct with strict forms of orthodoxy…
The point is, if they didn’t like how tbc was designed, to the point they got bored of the game and left, dual spec won’t keep them here either.
It might bring them back for a few weeks, but they won’t stay.
No, the point being that your sneering dismissal of anyone that got bored of the game makes your judgment of the situation more or less bunk.
This is the kind of gatekeeping that has no place here.