Dual Spec.. please?

That it would be a fix is your invention :slight_smile:

Noone has claimed anything more than that it would help.

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One day, in all of your hubris, you might realize why you failing to understand something is not a lack of consistency.

You just need to learn more.

Tri-spec being added in during the client that the game was built on is a fact, it’s not contested.

Therefore, it’s probably not hard to implement.

Where as you, who thinks the jump from dual spec to tri-spec is “major”, doesn’t quite have the same logic going for it.

What if I made the argument that dual spec can’t be implemented because it’s a large change, what’s your counter to that?

You have none. Your argument is unfalsifiable because it’s hinged on a complete fantasy that you made up.

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What if you made an argument. Just any argument. Period.

Just what if…?

You seem to be projecting quite a bit :slight_smile:

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Why is it Blizzard’s concern to throw charity at every turn in an effort to “help” you solve problems easily solvable in-game, in a game that is a recreation of another?

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It’s not, it’s their concern that people might due to lack of dual spec and in what numbers be quitting.

As for your #nochanges argument, yeah blizzard doesn’t care anymore than i do.

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At this point, trying to say “you haven’t made any argument” is not only the height of parody, but just more demonstration of your absolute commitment to acting in bad faith as the toxic gremlin you seem to enjoy personifying.

Tell me again:

Why are you so intent on limiting people to 2 specs when a ‘better’ version of what this thread is asking for exists?

Haha, OK.

So “If you don’t implement dual spec, people will quit!”.

You are the equivalent of an angry Karen screeching for meat products in a vegan store.

Why are you trying to limit people to only 2 specs when a better version of the feature exists allowing 3?

Probably a fruitless question given how much you’ve flip-flopped on what dual spec actually is/means.

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Unsatisfied customers quit, not sure what confuses you about that.

I wouldn’t care if they did unlimited specs with the current talent trees, dual spec is a very seasonable middle ground that satisfies most people’s needs.

You don’t seem to understand that retail specs include a lot more changes than just ooo… 4 specs.

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Which is why the implemented it in the first place.

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Why does it have to be binary? They can change it to whatever they please by your calculation. There’s nuance, you know.

They can make it 3 specs, using TBC talent trees.

Dual spec isn’t even in the modern game anymore (hasn’t been for several expansions now), and TBCC was layered on top of the modern client.

What makes you think dual spec is a “reasonable middle ground”?

Why isn’t tri-spec a reasonable middle-ground to you, #allchanges-bro?

At some point one of you goofballs is gonna have to actually explain how the jump from 2 to 3 specs is some kind of major no-fly zone to you.

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Oh no… I confused her with more nuance she doesn’t understand…

Maybe apply some critical thinking yourself about the differences between dual spec, tri spec, and retail specs, beyond #nochanges?

By that point you’re kind of arguing what the definition of a hybrid is though most people most.

Your hybrids are shaman paladen and Druid And for the record you’re completely right as a Farrel But as a boomy you would probably do just about it good as a Is shadow priest Wood.

It’s just like technically as a protection paladin I can offheal It’s not a lot and I can’t do it very well but if worse comes to worse I can do it.

I also kind of find it humorous that you tried to justify that rogues are a hybrid right Is Warriors you have a little bit more of an argument a little bit more Because yes they can tank in DPS however I wouldn’t consider a Warrior a hybrid.

You’ve made this argument yourself they are all physical the definition of a hybrid 90% of the time is someone that is hybrid between one element and another element.

Is physical and magical Again this is the reason why most people when they say hybrid the 1st thought process is paladin Is Druid And shaman.

I also find it humorous that he completely ignored my PVP Argument what a surprise

Wow you go from dual speck all the way to Garrison’s very long stretch there Again those are all different there’s a very big difference between me saying duel speck is needed for the game.

And something is extreme as Garrison those are very different Let alone all the other changes that led to that point those are not the same thing as far as go back to retail.

You can go to the legacy server If you really want classic while with no changes there you go

Why is a Shaman a hybrid and a Priest isn’t?

Shamans can only have DPS and healing specs. Same with Priest.

Hybrid is a class that can do multiple roles. Pretty much the only class that can actually serviceably perform two roles in the same build is a feral druid.

So yeah, you can debate the definition of “hybrid” if you want, but either priests/warriors are hybrids, or druid is the only capable hybrid.

You being able to navigate nuance would be a blessing to this conversation, one could only wish.

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It’s okay you’ve already admitted

Why is it so hard for you just own that?

Again That’s all up for interpretation however most people when they say hybrid Is just in the name people most of the time think of Druid Shaman And paladin.

Yes you are correct you could go round and around and try and define or redefine what the definition of a true hybrid is

That’s all up for interpretation however Is this really at the end of the day has no effect on the actual argument whether there are true hybrid or not it doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t benefit from dual speck.

It offers just as much freedom to a hybrid class as it offers to Is a pure Is only differences it’s different.

If you’re a rogue for example You have your PVP and you have your PVE speck.

Is same thing with a warlock and same thing with a mage And the same thing with the hunter.

And that’s just the truth

If it was so painfully obvious dual spec is impractical and unrealistic you would give reasons to back up that opinion. All you have in this post is the claim that it’s impractical and unrealistic. I would say not a convincing argument but it’s not an argument at all.

Because he remains an inconsistent dishonest liar who can’t keep track of whatever he has said in any post previous to the next.

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If you think it’s a better option start a thread asking for it and see if you can get any agreement.

It’s more like asking for turkey in a store that sells chicken. Because Thanksgiving is only a month away. By the way, calling someone a Karen is just a way to insult them without having to take the time to consider their arguments. You insult people all the time. The difference is you lie about it and I admit it.