Dual Spec.. please?

aint my first and wont be my last

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Alright then :sweat_smile:

How would you like your proof? In the forms of metrics of game sales for wotlk?
Dredged up old forum posts from wotlk days of people celebrating the release of dual spec?

I’m sure someone with more effort than I intend to put in has already done that in this thread, you’ve just refused to read it.

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By this logic they should also add LFR, which is also a widely celebrated mechanic that is still in the game several expansions later.

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Nobody liked LFR it was kinda just like er ok lets see how this goes…

Ah nup its bad

Chalk and cheese

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I dont know, you said

So. You must be able to demonstrate it right?

This sounds like projection to me. Do you tend refuse to read what others offer?

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So why is it the singularly most used raiding tool in the modern game for several expansions? It’s clearly popular, hence them not having removed it since it was added.

You seem to say a lot of things.

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LFR is just there so of course people will use it if they’re too lazy to join a guild and raid anything else.
Retail content has been garbage for a long time so not surprising people will take the easiest path through it to experience the content.
I don’t see how fluidity of spec changing can affect a whole meta of not raiding with a guild. BIIG jump to make there cowboy.

Edit you seem to say nothing of value. Go forth and continue your mediocrity in da world of warcraft

The “unecessary barriers” is content too…And the “content” you speak of is generally also a contrived barrier to other content.

The “barriers” are designed to be there to make you do stuff in game - content.

The real question is whether the grind or the “barriers” make the game more or less fun. Note a distinction here, not that the barriers are fun, but whether the game is as a whole and as a result of the barriers.
Constraints are part of the game content. Generally constraints aren’t fun, but we need to ask if the game is more or less fun with the constraint.

And that’s the crux of this topic. Is the constraint of ad-hoc respec fees something that ultimately makes the game more or less fun?

I think it makes the game more fun as it incentivise us looking to others to assist with various content both instanced and in the open world - rather than simply do the thing we want ourselves with a perfectly optimised spec.

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let him say his thing.

Please, just show us.

Unlike dual spec, which got a major renovation.

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Kind of like how dual spec is kinda just there so people will use it because they’re too lazy to farm the gold to do it the way you do it now…?

So…exactly the same thing LFR does??? LFR completely leapfrogs the guild recruitment and group forming aspect of raiding for those who are not savvy nor want to engage with that aspect.

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This is your favorite insult. The difference between us on that score is you pretend you’re above all that and I admit I don’t like you and insult you because of it

The whole “You’re projecting” thing is done to death in general.

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I agree 150% Dual speck does not harm the game The classes are still the same Is warlocks and hunters are still overpowered.

And Rogue are completely broken in pvp Not only that it’s not like it’s Hasn’t had changes already so.

Yeah #DullSpeck

Not worth it my man, we need you here :slight_smile:

I mean you’re completely right you can disagree with us as much as we can disagree with you

I mean promised experience But by that definition Then all the other changes that were made would go against that too.

The profession Is changes that they made And the changes that they made specifically to your class.

That affects game play a lot more than dual speck wood wouldn’t it I mean at that point.

Then that just kind of comes down to opinion how far is too And your definition its duel speck.

For a lot of other people it’s not

This seems like wild speculation on your part, to say the least.

OK 1st off That is a huge huge huge huge Is difference between LFR and Duel speck.

Second No it was not In fact if you were around when they implemented that especially the way it was implemented.

Everyone hated it It’s kind of one of those things that When it was brought in I will acment there was a lot of people that wanted it.

Is including myself I will commit to that however looking back on it It’s kind of like when lfd came in.

It sounds like oh this is going to be great Is kind of like the death wing fight On paper it sounds awesome.

In practice it was terrible That’s the best way I would describe those 2 systems In fact honestly one of the changes is that I hope they do for a classic wrath.

They give us the group finder from legion not lfd