Is wotlk. Or retail.
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Playing a mmorpg where you can log in and click buttons and not have to interact with anyone. Where you can just turn off chat and pretend like the other people are just NPCs.
Yeah, I don’t play that game. There are better options for solo rpg games, but I didn’t want that.
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Clearly you never played BC and Wrath. The dungeons, raids, quests, and zones are totally different. They are completely different games. Only most of the classes, races, and talents are mostly the same. I’m have a great time with BC classic. Almost as I remember it. Except this time I got to skip the vanilla part and go directly to BC on my boosted druid.
Isn’t it hilarious? They destroyed the game before, or people much like them did and drove out the veterans who refused to “get with the times.” Blizzard decides to give the older players what they wanted as opposed to trying to bend retail back to how the game used to be. Because it isn’t absolute trash all the retail rats found their way here and the first thing they do is demand retail-esque changes to suit them so they feel inclined to play a game they never once asked for and in a lot of cases viscerally argued against.
I think the best part of it though, is the first time we accepted the “one small change only, don’t worry” BS and saw what happened to the game as a result. Then they’re magically confused why we’re not so accepting of them the second time around. It would be like if my friend borrowed my car and crashed it then got upset when I refused to let him drive another one of my cars again. Obviously I’m not going to make the same mistake twice and going to learn from the first time.
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To late, we’ve already got major changes to both classic and BC. Perhaps this isn’t the game for you. I hear that Grand Theft Auto is a very good game. You might want to try that
I don’t even have retail on my computer. I’m making the same complaints and requests as I and many others did during BC original. Dual spec was needed back then and blizzard realized it and added it. It’s needed now too
Clearly.
For completely different types of people and play styles. Let’s leave them separate and both groups of people can be happy.
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Ah yes, because we got minor changes that didn’t drastically impact the way the game was played at a fundamental level that totally justifies making large changes that actually will impact the fundamental structure and design of the game. . . By that logic you should get the electric chair for shoplifting because well it’s still a crime. You might be the most intellectually dishonest person I’ve ever spoken to and I had to suffer debating Destiny for 2 hours once.
“Perhaps this isn’t the game for you.” Said by the person who is demanding a large change to the game to make it appealing for them to play to the person who is playing the game just fine and not demanding any form of change.
No, I think if anything, you should be the one finding a different game. I can play it without sweeping structural changes and be happy. You seem to need it to be tweaked a bunch just so you feel inclined to play it. Big difference.
And they were ignored until Wrath, as they should be here. Just from your other posts you make it very clear you’re not here to make a logical case. You’re here to demand something you want and be intellectually dishonest in replies to people who think opposite to you. Let’s not split hairs.
You’re not some crusader for change that you think you are, you’re a spoiled brat demanding they be given their way and anybody who disagrees with what you want you turn unnecessarily rude.
Being wanted and being needed are two separate things entirely. You would do well to understand the difference between these two terms.
In Wrath.
No, it isn’t needed now. It’s wanted now. That does not mean it is needed, it also doesn’t mean that it’s the right decision. This would be like saying players should just have all the talents in the game maxed out, I’m sure some people want that and it would offer a lot of simplicity to the game and cover the dual speccing issue. . . doesn’t mean it’s healthy for the game in the slightest or even remotely close to an intelligent decision to implement.
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The paid boost and a store bought mount is a minor change to you? We all have our opinions. Seems like a rather large change to me. /shrug Glad you’re happy with some of the changes.
Nah, let’s add some of the best of the changes and make BC an even better game
Newsflash, I didn’t ask for those and in fact I was very vocally against them, as was most of the people playing Classic because they preferred the mentality. You want to know who did ask for those things though? People like you who are only inclined to play the game provided it gets catered to their sensibilities because apparently you’re just special and have a more valid opinion than anyone else.
The people who leveled the correct way and dealt with the hassle didn’t like boosts. The people who decided to play TBC because Shadowlands sucks are the people who wanted boosts, so they could enjoy the content too but not have to actually level a character. These are also the same people who were demanding LFD in Classic and still are, or certain specs to be tweaked, or for dual spec to exist. People who quite frankly do not belong in the environment until they can grow to accept that they should just play the game and enjoy it instead of constantly demanding one QOL fix after the next so they can enjoy it.
If you want the BS you’re begging for right now, go to Retail. Because it’s all there and it’s a hugbox of overly entitled people such as yourself. You’ll be right at home. Leave the people who want to enjoy TBC for all of its pros and cons in peace to enjoy the game the way it’s meant to be played.
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That would be wotlk. Just wait a bit longer.
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I leveled a few characters to 60 without a single paid mage boost. I even dealt with the hassle of doing it with a holy spec on this priest. I wish you people would stop claiming people who you know nothing about agree with you
You see that’s why it appears to any person thinking clearly that you couldn’t have played both games. Adding dual spec wouldn’t make any of the quests Wrath quests, they’d all be only BC quests, any of the dungeons Wrath dungeons etc. We’d still be doing ramps and AC and BM in outlands. We wouldn’t be doing Forge, Halls of lighting, or Oculus. We’d spend most of out time in Outlands and not a single second of time in Northrend. You seem to be really confused.
Your “best” isn’t my “best” - lets not.
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You’re certainly free to advocate for what you believe are your best changes or argue against mine. Blizzard has even created a forum for you to do that. In the end blizzard gets to decide. So far I like the decisions blizzard has made. Many of us argued in multiboxing threads asking that blizzard ban input broadcasting software and hard ware. When blizzard did just that we celebrated. I liked the 30 dungeon a day limit, good change. Changes to the pally seal was good to, a wrath changed added to BC. I liked the boost and didn’t care if people bought a mount. The game is being improved for me and those who agree with me.
except they did eventually remove the 30 dungeon limit a day at start of BC due to people complaining as it was a terrible addition.
Honestly, my view is that the game presents the chance to replay this iteration of the game close to how it was, warts and all. The best changes, in my view, are those that enhance the spirit of this gameplay through advances in tech. Such as removal of batch queueing. Edit: More examples, flight path optimisations, graphics texture fidelity, reduction in input lag.
But generally my perspective is that the spirit of the game is grind. TBC is a game about grinding. There’s a gold grind, faction grind, loot grind, profession grind etc … QoL changes work as counter to the grind and thus undermind the main driver of the game. Edit: if you take the grind out of TBC you end up just playing TBC flavoured retail.
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You are playing TBC and upset because it isn’t wotlk. You seem to be really confused.
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Do dps players have to grind? Do they have to change respec to do dungeons? Giving those with a tank and healer spec a dps spec doesn’t take the grind out of BC. It just gives them the ability to do both dungeons and grinding like the dps. How about we just give dps a 20% nerf to their dps when they aren’t in a dungeon to make questing for them more like tanks and healers
If you think one change makes BC wrath than the boost makes BC retail. You hate retail. You should quit the game