Dual Spec.. please?

Should just enable dual spec for everyone no cost.

All serious, I would love to tank for my guild dungeon runs whenever I want to if I could swap spec on the fly.

It would help the tank and healer shortages that is happening right now.

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Death by a thousand cuts. The suggested change runs directly counter to the spirit of this expansion. You do it once then why not keep going? Given that the objective is to have TBC content without the grinding awkward bits?

If the spirit of TBC is open to change for player convenience then where does that end?

Edit: Old style MMO’s (which TBC is a part of) were built around the idea of gaming communities solving their own QoL issues socially and in game. It’s the main driving force behind the game.

Need to respec often? Get a guild group to grind out the gold for it.

Have a Tank shortage? Join a guild and offer players guild rewards and perks for running as a Tank.

The idea of developers coding out inconveniences and grinds, normalising asymmetries, and building rails for players to safely navigate the world and content on is a relatively new gaming paradigm. One I would argue is out of place for a rerelease of TBC.

There is a way to play in the TBC world with a more modern game ethos, play it in retail.

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It’s already done more than once. If blizzard is not capable of making choices we’re already on the slippery slope and you lost

After adding dual spec. If blizzard can’t stop then it can’t stop after adding the boost or the pally seal change.

Yes, they do.

No, but if they decide to, it costs 50 gold for them too. Like if a dps wanted to switch to tank or heals to get a group faster, it costs 50 gold.

We already have the ability to change our spec, and it tops out at 50 gold.

So if dps has to wait longer for a group, or pay 50 gold to respec to tank or healer to bypass the wait - or if heals and tanks have to pay 50 gold to speed up the grind, it evens itself out.

If you think one change is going to make the game better, and 20 other people thing their one change is going to make the game better, and all of the “just one change” things are added up, then the best game is retail. Right?

Why are you playing TBC?

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If that’s what you think than with the many changes we already have BC is retail. You’ve made it clear this game isn’t for you. You really should quit.

After you :slight_smile:

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Or join a guild and pay the Tank in consumes to run stuff for you.

In classic era MMO’s the games were designed for players to solve their own problems as a community, rather than to petition the devs to do it for them.

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I like all the changes. Why would I quit. Especially after I just paid an extra $40 to get a level 58 druid

To be honest I think the changes we’ve had are already too many for some of us. But it is what it is.

Personally I play the game as it is presented to me not as I’d prefer it. So far it’s good enough for me to want to keep playing it - that can change.

Bliz is not going to be able to keep everyone happy but they should at least make real efforts to make good on their promise to keep within the spirit of the original game. In my view dual speccing is not within the spirit of the original game and is best placed within the WoTLF context.

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So you will keep playing TBC and not play wotlk classic?

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You either didn’t play the game or go on the forums because people were constantly petitioning the devs to make changes to fix problems. Blizzard didn’t have to create a forum for it’s players. It created them to get feedback on the game from it’s players

That’s why we have expansions. To implement the changes people wanted. It’s also why we have classic vs retail, because some people didn’t like the things that other people wanted.

Which is why I suggest you wait for wotlk, or play retail, since it has what you want.

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I’ll keep playing BC with the changes made so far and likely with the changes forth coming. I’ll continue to ask for changes to make the game better. I’ll likely play wrath when it comes out with it’s changes too and if I want other changes I’ll come to the forum to ask for them

People have petitioned devs to adjust games to their liking ever since the first game release. That said the game itself originally resisted that pressure and explicitly aimed to have players solve their own QoL issues socially and in game.

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There have been so many changes in this game you didn’t want. You wanted authentic BC and it’s no longer authentic BC and there’s no going back. In fact for you it’s going to get worse. The devs have announced they’re considering more changes. That’s why I suggested you quit the game.

And when the game became a mashup of convenience and time saving and click button content, the quality of player interaction vanished. The reason people play retail isn’t the same reason other people play classic.

They don’t have to be the same game.

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You wanted retail with less content but you can already play that, so you should quit TBC.

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What don’t you get? I love the changes made to BC. I loved them so much I paid an extra $40 to take advantage of the changes. Why should I quit a game that the devs are changing in exactly the way I want them too? If you like all these changes blizzard made in the game and you’re happy they announced that more changes are coming you should play BC. If you don’t like the changes and don’t want any more you should quit.

Except, it isn’t TBC. I asked for TBC. I re-subbed for TBC. Not a mashup of changes and fixes from random expansions that came after TBC.

You, on the other hand, seem to be happy that the company is following the same path that led to the retail version of the game.

Which you don’t play.

And you are happy to have people who wanted the old TBC, quit. Or put up with “fixes” that continue to degrade the quality of the game and the quality of the people that play it.

And for some reason it isn’t possible for you to understand what “re creation of TBC” means.

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Yeah it isn’t. Bad luck for you, good luck for me. Ending your sub seems to be your only solution. I’m not happy about that. I’m not sad about it. It doesn’t affect me at all. A week from now I won’t even remember your name. I’ve never played with you. I don’t think I’d like to. And you’re not even on my server.