It’s not a deal breaker for me either. I will keep playing the game if dual spec isn’t added. The majority of players never come to the forums for any reason. That doesn’t mean they’re like everything about the game. During phase 2 of classic most of the people on pvp servers never came here to complain. But it became clear they were very unhappy about it without them every voicing their complaints. Their opinions about the problems became apparent when they took advantage of every opportunity to leave their servers and create almost one faction pvp servers.
Just like none of the changes so far are deal breakers for most players. The servers are well populated with the boosts and the store bought mount. So by your standard that was a good change for the silent majority
Most people don’t do that. You’re assumption that if they don’t come here to advocate for it they agree with you is ridiculous. If I was as stupid as you I could claim that since they are not coming here to join you in the fight against it they don’t mind if it’s added.
No one knows what the silent majority wants and it’s the height of ignorance to claim if they’re silent they agree with you.
Then they don’t want it bad enough. Again, non issue. If it is something you absolutely have to have you will indeed speak up about it. And if not, none of them needed or wanted it as badly as some posters have been projecting it to be needed. It’s rather simple. It’s also an ignorant claim to say you know that silent majority also wants it. It can work both ways.
They didn’t fight against the boost. Adding it is a non issue. Store bought mounts aren’t a problem for the vast majority of players since they didn’t come to the forums to object. And clearly they don’t mind if dual spec is added or they’d be on these threads arguing against it by your side
If you had the ability to understand what you read you would understand my whole point is neither of us know what they want.
Clearly it’s a non issue because it’s in the game. If they wanted it out of the picture they’d have been here fighting harder against it. On this we can agree.
And you of all people have no right once more to talk “comprehension” when you can’t distinguish you not wanting to do something does not equal something being impossible, when you imply you “can’t” and “won’t” quest as a resto druid. But here you are, again telling other people to “comprehend.” Let me sum this up for you.
You: Just because they aren’t on here talking about it doesn’t mean they don’t want it.
Me: And just because they aren’t on here doesn’t mean they do want it.
You’ve been posting that BS in multiple threads. You and I clash often. Look at your post history. Even look at mine and you’ll find me calling you out on it several times.
I have never once claimed it’s impossible to quest as a resto druid. You’re either lying or your reading comprehension is grade school level. And that’s the whole problem in any discussion with you. But you could prove me wrong. There is a quote function on this forum. You can even search my posts on this forum for the words “impossible + resto druid”
When you say you CAN’T do something you are implying it is IMPOSSIBLE. You never once say “I won’t do it.” You use CAN’T multiple times. If you say you “Can’t” or “Cannot” do something you are indeed saying something is impossible or you are absolutely unable to do it. And I have comprehension issues? Lord above me have mercy.
Instead of making in game connections to new people who play a different spec.
Does it really? I would argue that it might increase the quantity for a short time, but the quality drops and then, so does the participation. No one wants to group up with “jerks”. For real.
I feel like you’re responding as if you caught me in some sort of “gotcha” moment. Honestly you haven’t though.
As a tank, and healer - I already do 90% of the content in the open world by myself, its just painful. Nobody likes to party for quests that require you to get quest items with bad drop rates. Nobody likes to party for content they can solo. So while you seem to have thought what you said was “you would be participating in the community more if you were forced to stay as your crap-at-questing-build” - you’re dead wrong. It’s the same everywhere.
Making in game connections to new people who play a different spec? Lol. I’ve friended 13+ people since pre-patch dropped, whom I ran dungeons with the one time and thought “hey it would be cool to run with them next time since they were good at their role!” - That’s basically never the case though. Levels get out of sync, people change specs, and a lot of people just don’t log on that frequently. The connections you should be referring to are called guilds - and dual-spec is not going to make guilds obsolete. It’s not going to make having friends obsolete.
To your last point. I disagree that its a short term gain. I was there when dual spec was originally released, and I saw how much the game experience increased through the entire expansion as a result of it. Clear up til Cata dropped, you could get every role for every dungeon with relative ease because people were more willing to press a “switch spec” button than they were to drop gold and manually re-distribute talents every time they wanted to run something instead of quest.
You’re really taking imagined negatives to dual spec and blowing them way out of proportion. This isn’t even something worth arguing about, because its literally documented on forums here, wowhead, mmo-champ, how amazing it was and continued to be.
People love to group up. They’re constantly looking for dungeons even into the middle of the night. Those that find healers and tanks do the dungeon those that can’t find a tank or healer are unhappy because they really wanted to group. More tanks and healers would mean more people grouping up. Even if dual spec is a marginal increase in tanks and healers it would make things marginally better
You keep talking about community yet have the most negative view of that community. I think people play the game because it’s a fun game and dungeons are a fun thing to do. But even if it’s all about the loot the better loot will still be in the dungeons much more than in the solo world. People will want the dungeons just as much after dual spec is added as they wanted to before. They’ll just be able to do more dungeons with more people tanking and healing.
I have a negative view of the people who want dual spec for personal reasons and start pushing how great it would be for everyone and when presented with arguments or currently available solutions, they resort to personal insults or change the subject.
Group up. “I don’t want to”
Do this to make gold. “Takes too long”
Wait for wotlk. “I want the game changed to suit me and I don’t care what other people want.
Maybe you should be playing retail or a different game. “You’re a moron”
Blizzard has made a lot of changes to classic and classic BC. They have told us they plan to add more changes. If that’s a problem for you maybe you should be playing a different game.
I will leave when the community I came to play with is driven off
by the people who demanded changes, got them, refuse to play the game with the changes they demanded, and are now playing a game they “think they wanted, but they don’t”.
I’m not sure why people can’t let other people enjoy a game they asked for. You didn’t want TBC, you wanted wotlk. So wait for it. I had to wait 10 years to come back and play the game I wanted.
No one is driving anyone off. There have been requests for changes, Blizzard gave us some of them, both the requests and the changes will likely continue. Maybe this isn’t the game for you. I doubt you’ll ever leave though. If the boost and the store bought mount wasn’t enough nothing will drive you away.
I don’'t get it either. Here I am asking for dual spec and you’re trying to not let me enjoy that game I’m asking for