I know using logic is foreign to you
so…one feature?
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A huge number of basic game play elements were started in TBC. Welfare gear, dailies, 10/25 man raids, streamlined class balance. Sorry but if you claim to hate retail you also hate large portions of TBC.
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Logic tells me to agree with logic. Not just whatever you make up.
Those are several features I just mentioned.
And this.
LOL and you’re also intended to take hits and dish them out, hence Rage, hence all the frothing/fury/angry themed skills.
Which doesn’t homogenize anything.
Blizzard hasn’t cared about “true hybrid” for a long time so again, your aesthetic RPG preferences don’t really matter here.
Not really no.
If we’re going to go this route, then any variation of points of talent are viable enough since dead DPS can still get carried to victory. If we’re going to just suddenly play fast and loose with “oh well little Jimmy got only 3/5 of the crit talent so that’s NEW and INTERESTING” then you’re just stretching to be mad about trees not being trees.
In Classic? LOL no.
You put Sunder, no Devastate, and you absolutely don’t need Thunderclap or any of your shouts to Tank. Oh and then there’s the fact that half of that stuff is macro’d like HS and Revenge, so you aren’t thinking about it at all.
“OH MY GOODNESS I HAVE TO SOMETIMES APPLY SHOUTS ON A 3 MIN TIMER NOT THAT I NEED IT BUT MY GOODNESS DKS REQUIRE NOTHING ELSE!!!”
Yeah, no. This is pathetic Warrior coping right now… having lots of buttons doesn’t make them useful or “mandatory”
I have given it up. I no longer argue with you clowns. You aren’t worth the effort. Now I just say you’re wrong and you should deal w/ it.
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It’s pretty asinine to compare warrior TBC tanking to any BFA tanking. And not just because of number of abilities, all classes are on an active mitigation model now.
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Oh you can gear up an entire character in a week in TBC?
Theres PVP Catch up mechanic in TBC?
You think mage/druid/warlock being the top 3 classes by a large margin is “streamlined class balance”? LOL
Dungeons are absurdly easy in Retail
The systems in place are numbering in WAY too many to gear up your class
Leveling is significantly easier
Pvp fights last way too long
The new bgs are terrible
The game feels empty
So youre saying im a statistical minority? seems unlikely considering the number of people who have been agreeing with my posts vs yours is in favor of me though this is just a small sample size
Thats basically one Lump sum feature the boost is a single feature that includes a mount gear and gold. The deluxe package is the same thing just more for more money. Not a different feature
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That’s all you’ve ever done. You never had a rational argument even from the beginning
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I’m saying your numbers have no source.
Irrelevant. These are retail features. You’re contradicting yourself when you say you don’t want these when they’re in the game anyway.
Wow you caught me. A single retail feature is in the game. Ive been had. Its not like retail has an ABUNDANCE of other features i really dislike.
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Oh I know… no Tank is hard, but every Tank has Active Mitigation considerations that must be considered or you just lose a huge hunk of your survivability. Threat is no longer a concern but honestly it wasn’t ever in the first place given how binary and dumb it is.
I liked the Vengeance model in Cata a lot… but I’m biased cuz Feral could Bearcat to victory.
Sorry, but anyone can see you selectively quoted my response. Plus Ziryus responded to you as well. You’re just inconsistent and hypocritical. Even a single feature breaks down your entire argument anyway because it’s a retail feature.
The thing you don’t want in the game is in the game. And you’re playing it anyway.
Guess what that means?
It means you don’t stand on principle.
So…
If you do this thing called scrolling up i break down Ziryus’ entire post so idk what youre talking about
Thats the most asinine thing ive ever read So because arenas still exist in retail that means i have to hate tbc?
Because Alterac valley, arathi basin, WSG, and EOTS are in retail i must hate them?
Your argument is that Ziryus pointed out 10/25 man raiding started in tbc and exists in retail or dailies started in tbc and exist in retail that means “retail features and you must hate tbc”
Thats literally the most low IQ response ive ever read
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OK one 1st thing It’s not features that we’re asking for it’s asking for it’s a feature 1st off.
Second of all It’s the same Argument So simply put what you’re saying is you don’t want dual speck in the game because it because it wasn’t in tbc.
Is originally that’s literally what you’re saying simply You can dress it up however you want but that’s what you’re saying.
This whole argument about design philosophy and how there is a blue post in 2007 Yeah here’s the thing.
There was never a blue post about drums there was never a blue post about Enchanting and Joe crafting it doesn’t mean they were better for the game.
There was never a blue post in the day about world buffs either My point on this is simple we’re asking for a feature and is each other and realistically dulspeck is not this horrible thing you keep trying to make it out to be.
I’ve looked at the prosing cons several times and again The pros outway the cons by a 100%.
Is this concept that the wrath design is so different from tbc Quite frankly is a little bit silly.
Is in fact if anything I just think wrath polished or fixed the problems that did come up in tbc.
Now I’m not seeing wrath was perfect either however What else says this and a lot of ways wrath was better.
In some ways tbc Was better However what I’m saying is one feature from wrath Doesn’t make tbcc Wrath classic.
It just doesn’t
Which you then proceed to ignore even though it supports mine?
You still haven’t sourced yourself, by the way. You continually move goalposts, though, been watching that happen quite a bit.
Nice! So now that you’ve conceded that future expansion still have worthwhile aspects to them, let’s talk about putting Dual Spec into the game…
I quoted Ziryus argument, by the way, and it’s not that.
Focus now. Focus.
It depends on your perspective on both takes The people that want Dulce Becca see it as it would be great for the game and a wonderful quality of life and help a lot with the problems the game has.
The ones that don’t want it or one of the most arguments I’m hearing on this particular form is it what because our form is it wasn’t in the game originally and takes too much away from Is vigil design of tbc.
Relevance?
It does? Making more classes have similar abilities and sustain just because new classes were added that also have sustain adds to homogenization
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Sorry i tanked 60-68 as full fury so i didnt have devastate. Forgot it was added in tbc
I mean…if youre pulling a pack of 4 it definitely is a LARGE help to have a good base threat on them by using only 20 rage rather than devastating each one. But hey i could be wrong its just how i tanked while leveling…kinda (i actually used sweeping strikes WW and cleave into revenges when i tanked but thats not the norm)
Demo is a 30 second timer. Only commanding is a 3 minute. so i believe the word is SHOUT
I mean im pretty sure even warriors who tank in raids use more than 4 abilities but alright
Or if you’re actually aoe tanking you just get a pally tank.
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sure, jan.
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hmmmmmmm…
No what actually happened is i pointed out that features the were CREATED IN THE PAST still EXIST in retail.
But in reference to Dual Spec it was created AFTER TBC not BEFORE so yes it exists at a later point but doesnt mean it should exist now
The source is scroll up and view the likes on my posts vs yours. Then use logical statistics to determine that its unlikely that im a statistical minority in this mindset
No im adapting to these ridiculous “arguments” you guys spew up lol
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