And the people who refuse to farm gold to respec
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No, you’re not. You’re trying to preserve authenticity as much as it suits you personally.
Which means you don’t really care because you’ll play the game anyway.
The concession that there are bad changes belies you powers of prevention are lacking.
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So are you just #nochanges or can you actually explain why dual spec is bad?
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When was farming gold ever the issue here? Dual Spec cost 1000g. That’s not free.
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I guess? We all have our views of the game. Hence why i said “What we believe would be bad”
Not exactly. There would be a tipping point eventually that would tell me (and probably many others) to just leave the game. Where that tipping point is, is unclear. Depends on when the game would stop feeling like burning crusade.
Never said that we were able to stop anything. But in the same way you are pushing for dual spec. We will push for it to not be implemented in hopes that blizzard doesnt just think its unanimously a yes
I already have. Go look for my replies ive quoted myself PLENTY of times in this thread
It was LITERALLY the reason why people want it. They didnt want to pay for respecs every week and wanted to be optimal at all times.
Literally quoted from the OP
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just wait till wrath and then get it
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Correct. It’s the 50g per week that has people not wanting to keep returning. We already pay a monthly fee to play the game. There’s no point in making us do extra work just to sustain an offspec.
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Why do people keep saying “wait till wrath” when the game was already released back in 2008?
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They’re hoping they can think of something by then to try to have it removed.
Original Horde-only seal is the superior DPS seal, whereas the original Alliance-only seal is the superior Tank seal, which wasn’t a thing both sides had until Wrath.
Right, but it means that with sufficient greed (that is people will pay and/or subscribe) Blizzard will change things.
Original TBC had all of T4 and T5 available at launch, as well as Hyjal for T6.
Some recipes were released early, making other things that come out at the same time or even later moot because of the power difference. Some weapons were reverted to MH only rather than OH, while other gearing improvements and buffs were kept in.
My point being that itemization has been inconsistently applied across the board, often just to give people boosts they don’t even need, while nerfing DPS or throughput or survivability of others.
Warriors for instance have the shortest end of the stick on EH thanks to us being on the 2.4.3 patch, whereas Paladins were originally quite paper-thin and didn’t even have SP on a lot of their early plate options.
The point being that these aren’t “conservative” changes.
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Days.
Tiers don’t even last a full 24 hours. Without the phases TBCC would be cleared completely in under a week.
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I’m about to have my 4th 70 and they are all healers but, I’m all in for Dual spec. I would love to Tank on my pally or dps on my priest/druid and shammy without having the ridiculous 50g to switch each time. People who say Dual spec didn’t solve anything are out of their minds or they are a Tank/Heals and are afraid of their spot being taken.
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Then just tank on the pally, and heal on the rest.
Whether you play the class or not though it still wasn’t in original tbc.
Your argument against Is dual spack Is this idea that it takes away so much from the original.
But blizzard has done a million different changes that is so far different than the original it’s not even funny.
The drum changes, Is enchantine and jewel crafting, The way they’ve changed arena But if this is proved anything we don’t play the game the same way anymore.
Oh and let’s not forget the biggest one Is same faction battlegrounds When was that introduced I mean I remember being an legion but some people have said mop.
But either way Is that’s a huge huge time frame Indifference we’re asking for a feature that was introduced in wrath.
Because quite frankly Let’s just say for the sake of argument you’re right and it creates a whole new meta.
Is of people switching specs in between boss polls Realistically how many guilds are going to really do that.
Maybe the top 20% Maybe And also can I remind you if we really want to go into the hole Is the top Guild’s cleared SC and TK in an hour.
Is so really Your whole argument that you’re completely OK with This paladin seals because it doesn’t affect your class is silly.
Because if you’re going to defend and say I don’t want this in the game because you feel it disrupts the original design of tbc.
Then all the changes I have listed Should you be equally upset about those?
Now I think they are all better for the game But that doesn’t get away from the argument they weren’t in the original version.
I want doors back because I think This and by the way we’ve seen proof of the fact that it makes the This game better.
This and would help with the problems that are plaguing tbc now.
Because I’m sorry how many private servers have we seen implement dual spec.
And of all the complaints you ever hear about those servers Don’t speak Isn’t one of them.
And yes you could make an argument That that’s not a blizzard server however If people are doing a Passion project they’re probably not going to implement something that’s going to be bad for the game.
Just saying
So what you’re saying is that when you roll a class it should be annoying as possible to possible to do anything else.
Because if I’m a paladin tank and cough cough you’re best and slot weapon is an arena by the way.
It’s not Is only to get a secondary gear set together which isn’t the hardest thing in the world economically but it’s still a bit of a pain.
You also have to find people to get an arena team together which depends on your server maybe not possible.
Is consistently You also have to shell out a 100 gold every single time you want to do the It may be for your best in slot weapon however.
A lot of people don’t have the time to do all those things you sometimes have to pick am I going to only have time to farm.
Pvp Or do dungeons You don’t always have the option to do all 3.
Is so yeah
Yeah I still say that they should have released Is tear 4 and 5 together.
I think we should have said hack with season one went right on the season 2 Is that way you could have had the blue rep PVP set at launch.
And you could have grinded your honor gear which you could have had the season one arena gear.
To give PVP It’s a little bit of a smoother Is gear progression On top of that depend your class you could have used some that stuff for pve.
Now yes People still would have been clearing the raids really fast however It would have given season one to have a little bit more longevity.
Because what ended up happening It was too short for PVP And too long for pve.
That’s just might take on it But it all goes down to the same brazen one of the reasons I say #Dual spack.
It would give players I don’t know choice
“Just play how I want you to play.”
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So you now decide what we all enjoy doing?
Again if YOU don’t enjoy it maybe tbcc isn’t the game for you, go find something you enjoy, stop trying to change what we enjoy to fit your wants.
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Much less worse and egoistical than, “change the entire game to fit my whims and whining.”
This is what I love about you whiners, instead of realizing that maybe you’re awful people for imposing changes on everyone else to fit your egoist needs, you accuse other people of being egoist for demanding that YOU adapt. Man, we’re such horrible people!
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Nobody is forcing you to buy a dual spec. It is completely optional.
Irony.
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