Better I draw my line in the sand than stand by a flake. At least with me they know where my limits are. You on the other hand are in the abusive relationship. “Blizzard will change! I know they will! It will be different this time!”
It was an isolated thing that was talked about. it wasn’t all over the forums, it wasn’t abuzz on every single server. You talk like it was some huge article written all over Blizzard websites. It was asked about in one Blizzard panel and you act like it’s all the company or gaming world talked about. Huge difference.
I don’t think you were there back then or you weren’t on the forums much or you’re lying now.
Prove it. I want to see these thousands of posts you claim flooded the forums. I was on here plenty, I even still have a sticker a forum goer from the guild Bubblegum Tigers drew of my original hunter as a MLP from back in those days. I’m sure you can provide all these links though. I’ll be waiting.
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That’s not how it works. You just are childishly being hypocritical and denial that you don’t appreciate people wanting something, and you have to express that you are quitting. Surely, I won’t quit for not having dual spec but you will for adding dual spec in TBC. So I can clearly see that your quitting is just gonna be enjoyable ride and surely will not be missed. Will you think that I am gonna quit over not having Dual-Spec? Nah. I’ll just keep asking till WOTLK and you’ll just have to read more threads like this every time.
Why don’t you prove that players are so vehemently against dual spec instead? See, two can play the burden of proof game.
No, I don’t appreciate people who feel that they want something and won’t stand by the product that has it, and is childishly immature enough to demand other products have it so they can be included. Not every product in this world is meant for you. Retail isn’t really meant for me with all the changes, so you know what I did? I went to Classic because I was one who petitioned for it. This is what I wanted. I didn’t want all these changes as many others agreed. You on the other hand are in denial as again, SL isn’t good enough for you with all the changes it provides, but TBC isn’t good enough for you to play as it is so you demand it change to conform to you instead of moving on and finding something meant for you ruining a tried and true experience that worked without Dual Spec. It did great then, it’s doing great now, and it will do just fine without Dual Spec.
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You’re making the wild claim that the forums were flooded with these posts. Burden of proof is on you folks. If you can make the wild factual claim it was indeed the case and I call burden of proof, it is your duty to provide. As I said, I was around plenty. I remember the days of random artists drawing our characters, or our usual “corrupt a wish” posts. Killercaitie before she became known in Wrath for “Give humans pigtails.”
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Please visit the front page of these forums and come back here when you’ve done so. A Blizzard sponsored poll is our best choice at this point.
What’s funny is this is the TBC Classic community’s chance to say “hey we can communicate with our devs and they listen!”
They listened for the level boost, they listened for seal of blood, they listened for the pvp bugs, it’s only a matter of time, my guy…
What am I looking for? I just checked. I see no poll from Blizzard. I don’t see you providing me with all these links from “back in the day” where this was discussed so wildly in original TBC.
The seals change was an attempt to stop a mass exodus of people to the Horde for BE paladin. That was a choice to help keep things balanced.
Level boosts were on the table long before the community even mentioned them. It doesn’t take much seeing as they offered them on retail under similar restrictions.
PvP bugs I’m not familiar much with those as I’ve seen complaints of things being “fixed” like tauren hitboxs and Blizzard announcing they are aware of a glitch that happens after a poly they are working to fix.
They ignored you the first round. You know that old saying right? Wish in one hand, and you know what to do in the other. So keep it up my guy, let me know which gets full first.
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Now you are just trying to get people in trouble by saying “provide links” and “show proof” by trolling people. Stop being a ma
Yes, we get that you just wanted to play back in the old days when you are not an old man and enjoyed when you were a teen. Guess what, not everything is the same, and just because you play in Mankirk doesn’t mean everyone has luxury like you to have every opportunity to have populated players to do runs together. Which is exactly why people ask for dual spec because not all servers are Full, and they are low enough to find the right role to fill that spot to do dungeons. But yeah, you are in denial. Because you clearly think TBC Classic has same population rate as old 2007 Burning Crusade. Which is totally whacked thinking.
The majority are asking for dual spec for their alts to have PvP/PvE specs. For every one person that says they “might” tank or heal you’ll have 100 more that is on their warlock, rogue, hunter, changing specs for PvP. You’ll have Arms warriors having a PvP Arms and a PvE Arms spec. You’ll have these “healers” arena heal spec’d and PvE Elemental or even enhance, shadow, or boomkin. Stop being naive. TBC has a much larger player base on a server by server basis. Server sizes even as a medium pop are about what high pops were back in the day.
And if you think I am trolling report me and move on. If you are linking things that get you banned or actioned, it is because you are not providing a credible source. If you have to go to illegal servers and sites then they are NOT credible, and if it will get you banned I don’t know what other clue you need at that point.
For their alts?? You have two 70s? Cause I don’t.
Almost everything you have said is what people expect, and want. We want to be able to PvP without paying 100g each week as the entry. Is it really that hard to grasp?
If you don’t realize that Blizzard came to the hosts of “illegal servers” for help on creating WoW Classic, then you are REALLY out of touch with the private server community and wow community in general.
I do actually have two 70s. Druid is 68 now and a full fledged tank who does just fine without dual spec. And is it really so hard for you to get that if you want to make these choices to decide to do things, then you need to invest in that? You can buy flasks, you can buy food, you can enchant and everything else. But God forbid you be expected to pay a small fee after you invested everything else of your time to do all these extra activities that you want to do. If you want to do it, invest the time and effort into doing it.
Blizzard went to them mainly for the information they lost to recreate it the servers. They didn’t go to them begging them to show them the error of their ways or else they’d host the servers and not Blizzard. Blizzard wanted their code and they got it. It’s still Blizzard’s game and it’s always been done Blizzard’s way.
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Yes it sucked so bad that a tremendous number of people stuck around for the entire thing.
You bitters really are amazing at mental gynmastics.
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Like I said. Total flakes. They can’t stand retail for what it is which has all the conveniences they want. Yet they can’t accept Classic for being Classic and playing it for what it is. They’re the worst kind of demographic for any business. If they aren’t happy with the product for what it is, then find a product that makes them happy. I can’t fathom why this is something so hard for people to understand.
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No actually, you are the worst demographic. A toxic elitist with an unhealthy amount of playtime that bashes casuals for wanting the game to be more accessible to them. You should leave the forums and go back to grinding.
You have a more accessible game for you. IT’S CALLED RETAIL. If you can’t invest time leveling? JOIN RETAIL AND GO 1 TO 60 IN A FEW DAYS. Can’t stand the honor grind in Classic PvP? PLAY RETAIL. Why is it so hard for you to understand? My demographic is the one that the market thrives on. We don’t demand an already established product change 45 different times in 50 different ways to please us.
We research the product, we look at what the developer of the game has to offer. We decide if it is what we want or not and we move on or play it. Constantly changing to the crowd that is NEVER happy with what they have constantly demanding change is a drain on resources and cash and drives those who stood by an original product for what it was out the door costing them profit.
Companies make games for certain people. You are not special enough to be catered to and included in everything at all times. Research a product. Look at what it offers. Do you like it? Yes, play it. No? Play something else. WoW is not the only MMO on the market, you have choices and instead of exercising that right to choice you’d rather spit in our pool for liking a product made for us because you are no longer happy with the product you yourself ruined.
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Cool, except now we’re in a situation where this product has new features which were not introduced at the time. One of which, the level 58 boost, was directly geared at making the game more accessible to newer players. These players realize just how far behind they are and just stop playing as much. How are we supposed to move forward from here? I suppose these players might keep subbing and keep trying, but how many do you think will?
You do know WoW has always been a casual MMO, right?
Classic and TBCC are not the right products for you if that’s what you want. These are restorations of the games as they were then, not things that should be bent and twisted to achieve the optimum degree of accessibility. That’s retail. Go play it. It has everything you guys want.
58 boosts were a terrible idea on Blizzard’s part, but even still, the motivation was that they wanted people to play Outland content as quickly as possible. So they say. This is in no way comparable to radical in-game changes like dual spec. To suggest otherwise is totally disingenuous.
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