Classic came because of the private server community’s consensus that Blizzard stopped listening to the players. Take a look at the current most popular TBC private servers, they have dual spec.
So now we have both the retail AND private server community supporting dual spec. Who is on your side? RP players? Why don’t you go to an RP realm then and we’ll let you pay your 50g respec costs. Maybe the trainer should channel a spell for the same length of time as the gold you spent on your respec. 50g respec? 50 second channel to “unlearn all of your experiences clicking on the talent tree”.
And why did those servers exist? Because they felt that the current model and all the garbage you begged for made it suck. BC has already went down as an amazing expansion to World of Warcraft without your dual spec. It has tried and true proven it worked fine without it. That’s all we need as a reason to say no dual spec.
Give me proof. If you can make a claim it was met with such overwhelming success, I want proof of that. There are people who hate dual spec, there are people who hate Xmog, there are people who hate the new talent systems.
Yeaaaaaaa… you really don’t get it. And I don’t think you played anything besides TBC or even latest retail to grasp why there is decline of population on both TBC Classic and Shadowlands.
But you can keep yelling at that 8 Ball and think whatever it says is believable. You do you.
You just are not a big WoW fan, and I can clearly see that.
Posting me to a private server isn’t proof. I need actual proof that WoW’s database accepted the system with such critical acclaim and didn’t do it because it was just offered. There were people who didn’t pay 1k for it, there were people who never paid the 10g for it in Cata either. So where is this undeniable, infallible proof that it was such an overwhelmingly celebrated success?
Where is the decline in players for TBC Classic exactly? Shadowlands I played, it has horrible systems with borrowed power. I hated it in Legion, I hated it in BfA I hated it in SL. Just as I hate the garbage random rolled loot system with random stats. It wasn’t enough you ran instances, you had to hope you had a stat itemization that was fitting. I still get groups just as easy on TBC Classic. My guild has overwhelming turn outs for our raids and still recruiting like crazy. We are running dungeon groups. I’m leveling alts still finding groups in old content. So enlighten me. If you mean the player created problem of PvP, that’s their problem not mine or Blizzard. Let them leave.
I’ve been with this game since the beginning, as years go by I take slight breaks but I always come back. You on the other hand apparently are a flake that is no fan of the game. You post on a Void Elf but can’t stand Shadowlands for what it is. But you can’t play BC because it isn’t what you want it to be. And who isn’t the fan here of the game? I believe me actually enjoying TBC as it is and not crying for it to be things it isn’t says I’m more of the fan out of the two of us.
You know what, I think you’re right. Blizzard should manage The Beta Crusade Classic how they please. They shouldn’t poll the players on what they want from later content phases in a fashion similar to OSRS. No, they should just ship out the incomplete buggy client with whatever mix-match of features they want from different TBC patches as fast as possible, level boost included, and just hotfix as they go.
Yeah! That will do much better than asking the players directly!
Oh no, I agree with you. Blizzard should poll players. Just not selectively as all that does is allow people such as yourself to claim that it was “overwhelming” despite the people who were ignored in the polling process. Blizzard did another poll, you remember the motorcycle contest? You remember how many votes were just bots rapidly repeat voting? Yeah that was totally accurate right?
On the topic of bots, perhaps we should remove the gold cap? I don’t think it’s very “rpg-like” to have a limit on the amount of gold players can have.
If you can only have the capability to judge my player loyalty and my enjoyment in WoW whether its retail or TBC classic by looking at my alt 59 void elf hunter, then you obviously are a great immeasurable disappointment of having conversation with. Because I prefer to debate about whether to add dual spec or not with someone who legitimately can discuss about their experience in the game than just judging someone and say “oh you play void elf, and that must be your main.” nonsense just to prove yourself that you are winning this argument.
I’ve told you, I’m not even close to gold cap on this character. My Alliance druid is a bit better off at old gold cap. And I’ve also told you that secret when you claim you can afford dual spec but can’t afford to respec. I fish, I gather materials, I play auction house. When I tank I sell excess cloth, I sell blues I may win, I vendor dungeon trash. I DE on my priest and put high selling mats in AH, imbued Netherweave bags. I took my druid from 66 to 68 the other day actually. I made almost 370g in just vendor garbage after two levels. That didn’t include 17 stacks of netherweave I sent over to make bags with, or the greens I DE’d for mats to sell or to make imbued bags. If everything sells I look to make a fair bit of gold.
Oh I pointed out more than just your avatar as it says just enough. You post to show off loyalty to retail. Go ahead, post on your Classic character for us all to see. Don’t be shy, you obviously have nothing to hide right? So if you won’t play Shadowlands because you’re in the know of why it’s losing players, it means it is missing something you feel BC has. At the same time you’re begging for the very conveniences SL has that TBC doesn’t. So it appears you can’t be satisfied with the game if you won’t swear loyalty to one or the other for what it is.
At least I am not the one who made a full statement that I am quitting over dual spec if it gets added. You did. So you aren’t loyal fan, and I’ve made my point on that.
If you actually played back then you’d know that the requests for dual spec were even more back then. Most people are able to look at things and see both the good and the bad. You no changers treat it like a prefect holy relic. It’s not and it never has been