It makes it easier to be 100% optimized for content without a time sink to get gold for every respec cost.
Being perfectly optimized makes content easier with player power creep.
So less time sinks and content being easier means quicker content consumption. Which is the opposite of what your claiming…
If not then you won’t mind doing the same content in a suboptimal spec then? Since talents and switching them is purely cosmetic.
You can’t have it both ways, claim there’s no gameplay impact but you need it to play the game effectively.
At this point dual spec is just more an ego-go-crazy for those advocating for it.
No no, please explain to me how what spec I use when i enter it with dual spec is somehow different?
I’m sure there’s a huge difference, do my fireballs hit twice as hard?
I’m not just talking about instances - the whole game is impacted. Need to farm primals for that crafted piece? No problem, switch specs and I can farm it in half the time.
I still don’t get precisely how you think dual spec will cause players to play more for longer. You haven’t really quantified that. You just seem to reckon that will happen. So much of your case is simply you reckoning stuff is the case - usually because WoTLK was awesome or popular or some such. It’s a very very weak case for change.
When I query you holding two contradictory positions you turn it back on me to defend them. You’re the one simultaneously maintaining that dual spec is a harmless qol change and important for game play at the same time. How do you reconcile that? If switching specs wont optimise game play why is it needed? And how will it increase game participation for a longer period of time (as you claimed)? If it’s just nice to have - then that’s that. It’s like having a barber - qol nice to have. But it isn’t just qol is it? Intrinsic to you position is that it impacts on how people play.
So, how will it make people play more?
What I find so amusing is that you’d rather just be playing classic, but that is so unpopular you have to play TBC.
You only care about #nochanges and have no interest in the actual quality of game play.
What I find amusing is that you’d rather play WoTLK but you’re stuck in TBCC whining about the lack of WoTLK features …
I’ll get my time again when Classic fresh is released.
At least be honest and admit you just want #nochanges.
I’ve fully admitted I want TBC with specific features like dual spec.
I know I can’t have no changes so why are you trying to strawman that again? Also I publicly support some changes that I think actually bring the game experience some benefit while respecting the original game.
What I don’t support is a blank cheque to change the game into anything we want even if it is antagonistic to the original design intent of the game. Like your position. You clearly think the TBC devs had it wrong and the WoTLK devs had it right and would like the game changed to fit WoTLKs design priorities.
I just want the changes we do have to be justified on more than “I wish this was WoTLKC and not TBCC”.
/shrug so present an argument against dual spec that isn’t #nochanges
Basically everything I’ve argued so far.
Not one of my arguments was “no changes”. That is a clear and obvious strawman.
The best argument I have is that you have failed to justify why the change should happen - beyond “I reckon WoTLK was better than TBC and TBCC would be better with WoTLK features” (Paraphrasing your position).
I don’t agree that WoTLK was better - not that WoTLK features are necessarily backward compatible. That’s a couple of assertions that I think require evidence.
Lol - you’ve basically concluded that because I think Vanilla was a better game than its expansions that I’m advocating #nochanges? I know it can’t be recreated as it was - I’m a realist. That time was lightning in a bottle. But I want changes that are respectful of the original games and not trash them.
Unfortunately, #NoChanges was the ongoing policy for WoW Classic.
Luckily, Blizzard has learned from their mistakes and that’s why TBC Classic is under #SomeChanges.
Can we agree on a middle ground solution? Cap respec fee at 25g and increase repair cost to balance the gold sink, please?
The RGP element is reserved, the economy is still in check.
Sorry, what exactly is the “RPG element” here?
If you went a frost build to have more CC and utility for mechanics, like say, merlocks add spawns to make that fight easier and your other build is fire for when your raid doesn’t need that extra utility to make the content easier, then yes, it does make your fireballs do 2X damage as your perfectly optimizing your spec per a boss fight that needs more utility to make it easier and one that does not.
You know I would be OK with every single one of those things aside from the paid boost.
I mean I would rather dual speck but if I can’t have that just removing respect cost fine with me.
And level 60 arena screw the hot garbage it’s a garbage that is the ring 14 grind just screwed let it burn in hell.
Get your mounts at level 20 instead of 40 fine with me I would be OK with everything one of those things except.
Is the paid boost quite frankly none of the things that you just missed on this list are bad II really it’s not that bad of a thing honestly.
Did you see that dodge. that was a nice, non obvious dodge of your question.
Well 1st off let me point something out the World of Warcraft team didn’t really changed that much they added people yes but they didn’t lose anyone till after wrath.
Second of all Dual spec does not destroy the core foundation of the game.
As far as designed can I point a couple things out to you World buffs, Is drums, Is enchantine and jewel crafting.
They never intended for people to do that either but yet people did them.
I mean it’s not one of those things where they probably thought OK so if people could switch specs on the fly this encounter goes from extremely hard to pitifully easy.
Also can I point something Is the world’s 1st kill for both those raids was literally an hour.
I hate me one to say it but if you can’t kill a boss Without Duel spack.
You’re not killing it with Let alone I would also make an argument unless we’re talking about PVP versus PVE.
Is most classes only have one speck they can use for each individual role.
You’re not going to see a retribution pad and trying to tank There’s those off videos where you have that shaman doing it but clearly those guys were overgeared.
His dull speck would not destroy the core foundation On top of that if you really want to talk about back in the day I also want to point something out.
Classes were finished in wrath It’s clear they were It’s now in a perfect world I would like to see rathalish king talent trees and dual speck but that’s obviously not going to happen.
Because let’s not even go into what a Is colossal mess class balances is in bc.
Oh congratulations Warriors and rows aren’t overpowered anymore.
We switched to hunters and warlocks Is good improvement Yeah sure some classes got better.
But real balance no that comes in wrath It’s in fact if you actually read on this topic you’ll know that wrath and the ledge king had the best class balance.
Because everybody was finished.
But more to the point dual speck would be a good change it’s not going to be this mind Earth shattering thing you keep in making it out to be.
It’s not going to make the economy worse or better Is it simply going to be a quality of life.
Is impossibly help with the tanking shortage and pvp Is participation.
So again I say #Duel speck.
You know if I’m being honest I look at that list and I think I would be OK with every single one of those aside from the paid boost and honestly no dull speck
It’s fine because any more than that and you that’s boo that’s no choice I’m in favor of Dulce Beck because it gives players choice.
That’s why I’m for dual spec and not try spec.
Because when you can just have one of each there literally is no choice