I’m okay with that. Gold is already inflated to stupid levels… why not?
PS - I turn into a pumpkin soon so I’ll follow up later.
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Pumpkin form… the legends are true!
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The difference here being
Players not being able to play the game = Game Systems Problem
Players not being able to play the game optimally = individual player problem
No im answering based on your logic. Which I suppose is irrelevant considering the magnitude of each problem being vastly different
Ah yes i could have just PLAYED HARDER and queues would be faster, my bad
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Sorry, but a complete lack of substantiation for your “world” makes it just as fictitious as mine is. Unless you want to prove otherwise.
Then don’t bring it up and shift the goalposts when someone argues against it.
So, were you not allowed to queue for BGs before HvH was implemented? No, wait, that can’t be right, because then you wouldn’t have known that they would have such lone queue times.
So, the only conclusion I can come to is that you’re lying about this.
Goalposts moved again.
Just your opinion. Which is without substance.
I know it is.
Ignoring the rest of what you said because you’re making up quotes about what you think I’m saying rather than what I’ve said.
Actually yes, you could have switched factions and had instant queues.
I wish there was an option to do a one time grind and get dual spec.
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That’s pretty much it. Don’t know why people on the forms need to be obligatory naysayers about this. Not sure why Dual Spec is such a hot-bed issue when it solves so many issues with convenience.
And if people are holding to some semblance of authenticity from original TBC, we’re long past that. Simply cannot be argued now; they did the boost and the mount, and they continue to do stuff.
If people are still playing, they’ve accepted this is the way it is. Might as well make the best of it and embrace other stuff we didn’t get first time around.
Of course you don’t need to respec to pvp. You don’t need a weapon or armor either. You can enter the BG or arena completely naked. You just need to respec to be competitive and have fun.
No dual spec.
Not till it is meant to come in.
STOP THE ROT.
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Yeah preach it! In fact drop the TBC name - that’s just pretence. Call it WoW NEXT! /sarcasm
You act as though TBCC has no relationship at all to the original game and the only thing that matters is convenience. Like it’s some loot service and the object is to get the imaginary loot to the customer as conveniently as possible.
All while trying to maintain that the game bears or should bear little to no resemblance to the game it is supposedly meant to be a recreation of.
Your whole position is absurd and you act like I’m the nutty one for liking the game as it is and expecting it to at least bear a passing resemblance to the original.
I mean that’s your argument: [Paraphrased] TBCC is nothing like TBC and dual spec makes the process of playing it convenient. That’s it. That’s you’re whole point?
Um no. I signed up for this - a game based on TBC. I want to earn my rewards and not be conveniently chair lifted to them.
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Waiting longer != players not able to play the game.
Patience is a virtue.
Sorry, what? What are you even talking about here? Have you been following the conversation?
Funny thing is, I haven’t even spoken to you. Not sure I want to now given you’re under the impression I’ve said things I haven’t said and now you’re making things up because of that.
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Well yeah. Kinda like how they save a significant amount of gold and time but thats never mentioned and instead we get more pug tanks and healers and increased pvp participation - which will never happen lol.
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It’s OK1 it’s not directly that you’re talking about the PVP gear however it’s all in the same category.
Yes you can PVP and a Is bad speck But you’re going to get crushed It’s just like you can do some really weird speck like 10 25 and 25 if you really want.
Now are you going to be good for anything nope At the end of the day and this is something I realized.
Is any good argument whether before or against dual spec.
You can always just twist around For example I would say dull speck gives players choice.
You I would imagine would say something like It takes away meaningful choice I don’t think it’s meaningful I’ve never thought so.
And every example of meaninful choice quite frankly the player base has universally hated.
Your 1st artifact weapons in legion, As write armor respecting, And covenance And conduit energy.
Is all meaningful choices and everybody hated them But in your opinion that’s not the same thing.
My point is dual spec opens up player choice you think it would make people lazy make people quit the game faster I disagree I think it would actually bring people back to the game potentially.
And the tank shortage yes you could make an argument that it’s been in the game since wrath and it hasn’t helped well one that’s just wrong.
Is speaking from someone that played during wrath and I can only say for my server but a lot of people including Myself try tank.
It’s white because I had the option I could be ADP S but if I wasn’t having good luck with that Hey guess what I could tank.
People are more likely to try something if there’s less of a restriction to it Like it or not.
But you see it as It would devalue you as whatever spec you are I don’t see how whether you like it or not I don’t see.
If I’m a paladin tank and I see somebody else respecting from a retribution to a tank I don’t care.
Because realistically were probably using the same spells and abilities.
It’s just not that big of a deal to me it never has or will be And again I hate to be one to say it talents have never been a meaningful choice.
This and World of Warcraft as a whole isn’t set up for meaningful choices anyway Again we saw that it isn’t Is conduit energy and cabinets.
Even if you don’t play retail You know that’s been the biggest biggest discussion Since before the game launched.
I can’t see any bigger proof meaningful choice is does not lead to good gameplay or fun game play in a game like this.
You would be surprised by the viability of a hunter with 10/25/25 can have lol. He won’t do a lot of damage, but he will have a lot of utility.
Which might not actually be useful.
My swiss army knife has a lot of utility, doesn’t mean I want to take it with me over a better knife.
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Depends on the team comp.
It’s useful in 5v5.
I’m not saying it’s the best option, but it can work well with the right team comp.
bring in dual spec
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They will, in wotlk classic
You’d think after #nochanges ruined classic that people wouldve stopped screaming it when it came to BC but apparently people just don’t learn.
Did you enjoy your cringe world buff meta all of classic? or leveling content being dead because aoe was left uncapped so any spastic mage could boost super easy? I sure enjoyed having to macro /stand into basically every ability I have for the AUTHENTIC classic experience
No dual spec is killing BC, particularly the pvp scene. Participation is low because doing anything outside of raid basically has a 100g price tag with it and most of us don’t have the time to waste doing chores for the privilege of getting to queue some bg’s. It’s half the reason gold buying is so rampant.
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