Dual Spec.. please?

[Nekogirl-blaumeux]

@Chiffley-arugal

Did you enjoy your cringe world buff meta all of classic?

i don’t ever remembering a large scale support for removing world buffs at all during classic, yet you’re blaming the evil nochangers for world buffs existing in the game.

@Chiffley-arugal

or leveling content being dead because aoe was left uncapped so any spastic mage could boost super easy?

AOE cap did nothing to slow or prevent any type of mage boost. They weren’t harder at all after the cap, they just took 1-2 minutes longer. What a nerf, dungeon boosting is dead for sure!

The levelling content was a lot less dead in classic than it is in TBC with the 58 boost, that’s for sure. Another great product of #somechanges

@Chiffley-arugal

I sure enjoyed having to macro /stand into basically every ability I have for the AUTHENTIC classic experience

A nochanger did not come to your house and force you to macro anything in your keyboard. You did that out of your own volition.

@Chiffley-arugal

most of us don’t have the time to waste doing chores

Dude, you’re playing the ultimate time waster: the MMORPG. I’m not sure what you were expecting.

@Chiffley-arugal

It’s half the reason gold buying is so rampant.

So you are justifying gold buying because "OMG NO DUAL SPEC " Yikes.

[Chiffley-arugal]

Hey look a bunch of strawman garbage from one of the worst posters on this whole forum, surprising stuff. Go make some more threads about removing /spit lmao.

[Fraudir-atiesh]

Hey whiners, how is that dual spec working out for you?

[Nekogirl-blaumeux]

@Chiffley-arugal

Hey look a bunch of strawman garbage

That’s a great way to avoid using reasoning skills and deny reality. A true intellectual titan, on par with saying “Nuh uh!” in kindergarden.

[Megarune-frostwolf]

Look how long it took for horror to get same faction battlegrounds but they still got it eventually.

Is are you enjoying the game dying Because I’m not

[Megarune-frostwolf]

I want them to as well # Dual spec

[Auora-faerlina]

@Chiffley-arugal

You’d think after #nochanges ruined classic that people wouldve stopped screaming it when it came to BC but apparently people just don’t learn.

Did you enjoy your cringe world buff meta all of classic? or leveling content being dead because aoe was left uncapped so any spastic mage could boost super easy? I sure enjoyed having to macro /stand into basically every ability I have for the AUTHENTIC classic experience

No dual spec is killing BC, particularly the pvp scene. Participation is low because doing anything outside of raid basically has a 100g price tag with it and most of us don’t have the time to waste doing chores for the privilege of getting to queue some bg’s. It’s half the reason gold buying is so rampant.

Careful, that was a lot of big words for these people to follow.

[Achillies-bloodscalp]

@Xúxù-illidan

Hello there.

I think I am speaking for a lot of people when I say dual spec would increase the gaming experience for most of us.

Right now you are kinda stucked to your talents if you don’t want to spend 50g each time you want to play some other content, or another spec.

If you are a PvE and PvP player, you need to manage when you are able to spec to your other talents. That avoids a lot of player to queue for a bg just in the meanwhile.

There are also hybrids (tank/dps or heal/dps) who would love to play the other spec when needed but they can’t just do a few dungeons as dps and switch to heal after for their raid.

Could you please consider to implement dual spec?

Thanks for your time.

They will prob give us dual spec like last phase or something to go along with other moronic things like waiting until classic was over to remove spell batching.

[Megarune-frostwolf]

What makes me sad as you’re probably right however I’m still in the opinion.

The more we talk and complain about it the more there’s a chance at the very least for to happen sooner.

[Xpflash-whitemane]

Yes gib dualspec pls!

[Thereza-netherwind]

Dual spec makes the game cringe as the people asking for it.
We don’t need it, we don’t want it.

[Kumasama-westfall]

@Thereza-netherwind

We don’t need it, we don’t want it.

The TBC Classic Community wants Dual Spec

Blizzard, you said you’d work with the community on the types of QoL changes they’d like to see in TBC Classic. Dual Spec is the most talked about change and the consensus is clear, the players want Dual Spec. Nethaera: Why are we allowing players to dual spec after all this time? Ghostcrawler: We really felt like this was a great way to increase the flexibility available to players and encourage them to take part in more aspects of the game. To use just one example, some players like to pa…

[Megarune-frostwolf]

No no there are a ton ton of people that really really do want it myself included or Or have you not seen the multiple form posts about that not everybody wants it but a lot of people do.

[Thereza-netherwind]

It is a fact.
We don’t want a feature that does not belong to TBC and only brings more toxicity into the game.

just look how toxic are people defending the addition of dual spec

[Megarune-frostwolf]

Is toxic OK so what you’re saying is a feature that a lot of people feel would make the game better and defending that argument is toxic?

If you’re going to go that argument I could say the same thing about your arguments you want to try and find any argument to devalue how dual spec would be a good addition to the game.

And just ignore the fact that those points are either irrelevant or don’t exist any argument you could make against dual speck could easily be flipped around to say that is good for the game depending on your opinion.

However the fact of the matter is Hate me when to break it to you but the game’s not doing too great without it so let me ask you this.

Is the way the state of the game is right now how much damage could dual speck legitimately do legitimately do realistically?

There’s no inhack it can do more damage than the bots have And I’m very sure collectively as a player base though one thing we can agree on is that’s the worst problem in the game right now.

So what I’m saying is if it gives the player base a better quality of life and player experience I’m all for it and when I look at the pros and cons of it the pro’s way more outweighty possible bad.

[Thereza-netherwind]

@Megarune-frostwolf

Is toxic OK so what you’re saying is a feature that a lot of people feel would make the game better and defending that argument is toxic?

It is a feature that will make every player liable to have both specs ready to raid, otherwise they will be benched.

this is basically the same argument people were here discussing to why Leatherworking had to be “nerfed” and we should have drums cause a debuff that wasn’t introduced until WoTLK.

You can’t argue that the change on LW was good and at same time ask to introduce a feature that causes basically the same thing.

@Megarune-frostwolf

If you’re going to go that argument I could say the same thing about your arguments you want to try and find any argument to devalue how dual spec would be a good addition to the game.

If we would be talking about WoTLK, I would agree with you.

@Megarune-frostwolf

And just ignore the fact that those points are either irrelevant or don’t exist any argument you could make against dual speck could easily be flipped around to say that is good for the game depending on your opinion.

The whole point of having a feature that never existed added is already enough, but you made my point for me.

@Megarune-frostwolf

However the fact of the matter is Hate me when to break it to you but the game’s not doing too great without it so let me ask you this.

Dual spec isn’t the reason why the game isn’t doing great. People are using illogical arguments to say everything will be fixed by dual spec, when in fact, nothing will be fixed by dual spec and we will break things that are currently working. It is just like removing Tinnitus right now. You can’t say Tinnitus is good and dual spec is good, they are mutually exclusive. Either one is good and the other is bad, or one is bad and other is good.

@Megarune-frostwolf

So what I’m saying is if it gives the player base a better quality of life and player experience I’m all for it and when I look at the pros and cons of it the pro’s way more outweighty possible bad.

The player base wants a pony.
They always wanted a pony.

Dual spec isn’t a solution, because we don’t have any problem in game that would require dual spec as a solution.

This is a statement that has not been proved wrong, not without one contradicting itself with previous statements.

[Kanshu-westfall]

@Thereza-netherwind

only brings more toxicity into the game.

How does Dual Spec bring toxicity into the game?

@Thereza-netherwind

just look how toxic are people defending the addition of dual spec

What about the people constantly attacking the people who are simply asking for it?

[Kanshu-westfall]

@Thereza-netherwind

If we would be talking about WoTLK, I would agree with you.

But I thought it would just bring toxicity into the game. So, does that mean WotLK will just bring toxicity into the game?

Please be consistent.

[Megarune-frostwolf]

OK no I’m not II don’t know how you got Is the for me comparing the leather working change to dual spec I don’t know where you got that but no.

Is in fact a bathing the leather working Justifies my argument What was the reason that they made those nerves on those professions to give player’s choice.

What does dual spec do it gives players choice As far as optimizing every single speck what are you really.

What I’m saying is that stoolspeck would let people try out other things it would encourage people to try out different things it would encourage people to try PVP more.

Because let’s even not talk about optimal let’s just try jumping in for example if you’re a paladin or Warrior tank.

You’re not doing crap for DPS that’s just how that works and if I how that works in fact I would make an argument you could probably do more damage as a healer than a tank.

Obviously your gear sits are going to be different but really I mean how much different do you think your gear set is going to be from a affliction warlock to is 4 lock 2A.

The one hybrid build in the entire game that’s extremely good it’s extremely good I always just called it the shadow bolt speck because that’s literally what it is.

So no I’m not I’m saying that dual spec would help the game open up opportunities for people as far as the changes they made to leather working yeah I’m happy they did that.

Because I’m sorry we don’t need a repeat of the world buff meta in some ways even worse.

We don’t need to have professions encouraging people to level up is level up 2 professions every single time.

They get a new ring or a new neck or a new piece of gear tavir that’s just not healthy for any one or good.

So I don’t know how you connected that to that but OK.

And thirdly I’ve never said that dual speck would solve the game’s problems however it’s not unlikely to consider because of the way people play the game now.

I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch to say people would leave the game because of it Now is that the only reason no am I not even enough to say that.

This dull speck is going to make all the people that left come back no But I’ll say it like this it’s sure to heck wouldn’t hurt.

So again I say #DualSpeck

[Thereza-netherwind]

@Kanshu-westfall

How does Dual Spec bring toxicity into the game?

You should read the post. I already explained it.

@Kanshu-westfall

What about the people constantly attacking the people who are simply asking for it?

What about the people constantly attacking the people who are simply opposing it?