No, Im right there with ya. I was very vocal about many of the concessions being made. I didnt have many friends on the forums…some things never change. I couldnt blame Blizzard. They had a lot of people begging for more stuff on the forums. They always want more. Blizz caved cuz Blizz liked their money, not their ideas.
But I was told I was committing a slippery slope fallacy everything was fine it was for the better and in 2020 WoW will have 20 millions subscribers and they hoped I was still around so they could rub it in my face about how right they were.
This is pretty common from the classic perfect retail complete garbage crowd. I mean there’s definitely been some major issues with WoW but people have to be willfully blind to pretend that vanilla or tbc was perfect and that everything that came after was pure evil.
I’m following these threads pretty closely. Ummm did I miss that part where somebody … anybody at all … suggested that TBC or Vanilla or Classic was perfect? Or is this another one of your pet strawmen?
Good example is Retail’s Auction House. It functions loads better then the retail one. Making the AH in Classic like the one in Retail does nothing to impact game-play whatsoever.
Waiting for there to be an argument that respeccing is somehow equivalent to literally not being able to play that game due to population reasons
The two quests for daily dungeons combined give you like 45g not including any drops, silver drops, greens/blues, If someone is willing to DE items, cloth drops, profession drops within those 2 dungeons.
Apparently LOL
Wondering what the relevance of the epic flyer is
It wouldnt be better. See any of my previous posts for why. Youll have to explain why you do NEITHER on your pally though considering you should be at lest one of the two specs mentioned?
Youre right they should honestly just remove the regular flying mount because its NOT BiS and people should just get the faster one for 1k instead. Didnt they reduce flying mount costs in later expansions even though you make more money? Seems like they should just pull that into TBC classic as well. ITS JUST A QOL MAN
Hey man, you just have to want it and make up some utopian fairy tales about pugs getting tanks and heals and more people doing arena/pvp. People really, really want to do these things theyre just not because they exited classic gold capped and 50g is harshin their mellow.
No he quoted my argument that they added HvH pvp because 65% of the player base (being horde) just coulnt participate in BGs because queues would be an hour or longer before getting into a game. Then he quoted me and said “sucks doesnt it” or something to that affect and i was waiting for there to be some arbitrary comparison that the lack of Dual Spec is some how that same as literally not being able to play BGs because of server population issues that blizzard refused to address
I think the underlying point is that players can participate in BGs eventually, but having to wait a whole hour to do so kinda sucks. In that sense, the fact that respeccing forces a player to make a trip back to a trainer and spend an obligatory 50g also kinda sucks.
Technically, HvH battegrounds has no affect on whether or not players have the ability to participate. It just gives them the benefit of time which, as has been mentioned, is a convenience. That’s where the comparison comes in. Dual Spec saves time and gold. But, as the Goblins says, “time is money” anyway, so Dual Spec saves time overall.
Therefore, just as HvH saves players time so too does Dual Spec save players time.
No because it just made farming for pvp gear take absurdly long. Youd have to be logged on all day. Youre trying to compare being “forced” to participate in the games content before you can participate in the other content to literally having no control over queue times so youre LITERALLY forced to wait until the game pops.
Its not the same because you dont HAVE to respec to participate in BGs.
We HAD to wait in the timer regardless of ANY other factors.
After being FORCED to wait a long period of time
You arent being FORCED to respec to pvp. You can literally queue up in ANY spec you want. Hence it not being the same
It wasnt about convenience. It was about not even being able to farm out any of the pvp gear before a season ended unless you were online for 8 hours a day. Before the change horde players were getting 600 honor a day in a play session. A single piece of gear costs almost 18k. It would take you literally a whole month to get a single piece of gear.
Technically you weren’t forced to given you’re the one who chose to queue for a BG in the first place.
Saying this would contradict your previous statement about having been forced to wait for a BG to queue. Nobody is ever forced to PvP, let alone forced to respec for PvP. Some people choose to farm Kara epics before doing PvP while others are content to enter with greens.
In the end, it’s all up to them how they choose to do it. However, there’s less incentive to engage in any aspect that is far too inconvenient. It’s the same reason a lot of folks choose to forgo Heroic Blood Furnace, even when the Heroic Daily is available.