Back in cata I was a SV hunter main with a turtle pet when heroics first came out.
I was a CC God and could CC 7 targets at once. But doing so meant I did near no dps when CCing that many targets.
Guess I got carried being the only person CCing and my guild kept asking me to go with them because they felt bad right?
Had nothing to do with the fact I did all the utility work so the tank had easy time, healer had easy time, and the other 2 dps could just zug right? Na I clearly got carried for chosing to be the CC machine to make heroic trash a cake walk. Lol
These clowns don’t seem to understand its not just about dps lol.
Have you considered that if instead of CCing you could use your cooldowns until the tank dies and the shorter time means your numbers will be higher? Even better because now other peoples DPS is lower since they have to cover it and use resources to prevent a wipe, which means lower numbers.
See this is how someone who is not being carried gets things done.
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Aw you’re right how could I be such a fool!
I should let the tank die for my parse!
Lol.
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Now you are getting what is important.
Why should my DPS suffer to carry the tank when they and the healers could just stop being carried by my large numbers. They just need to get better. Why I hit the mob as hard as possible early, so they LEARN. Really doing them a favor by making them wish they were better at their roles. Plus I get rewarded as I can go grab a soda while waiting for a rez.
Really its a win-win.
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Actually no one has actually pointed out how it would be bad for TBCC. People have just said it would make the game more convenient and that is some how bad for the game.
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If given the choice I’d rather you have proper Tank gear than the proper Tank spec. Obviously both is ideal.
The original spark for this line of discussion was needing to respec to Tank yeah?
Dual spec is only half of the issue then - less than half in fact. The real issue is not having multiple sets of bis. A lot of people would be hopeless tanks even with a second Tanking spec due to not having a decent Tank set of gear.
So, why aren’t we advocating for adaptive stats on gear? That will net us better results in terms of allowing people to “do more stuff”.
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For bear tank both is the only option. You need survival of the fittest 3/3 to be able to obtain uncritable status (415 defense vs 495 (or what ever it is for you non bears)). Stacking to 495 defense will drop your threat a lot.
The audacity of saying this as most of the frequent fliers on the anti-side of this have everyone else muted…
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We come back to the double standards of the anti-dual speccers…
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The reason some of the anti dual spec people are using the mute feature isn’t disagreeing with you, it’s how the pro dual spec people (not all pro dual spec people, I am generalizing here) ignore arguments and use personal attacks that get them to use the ignore feature because of attempting to win the argument by bulling makes the anti dual spec people see you as not worth having a discussion with.
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Sorry what double standard?
Is echo chamber. Period.
They’d rather trim down who is disagreeing so that they can just back and forth agree with each other in a LITERAL echo chamber without considering anyone else.
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Hey now, just because I show a pattern of insulting you in 10 different ways while engaging in bad faith communication and bringing real world politics into the game cant be the reason someone would put someone on mute.
No, no the only reason is because they disagree.
What? The person who said the same thing only politely and engaged in reasonable dialogue isnt ignored? Imma just ignore that.
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That’s largely what those posting behind a mute do. Uh-mazing.
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How would you know if they are muted?
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They make a big show of it and it becomes pretty obvious when 4-5 different posters respond to things they say and then they post about how no one can refute them. That or they’re just really terrible liars and act like it is an echo chamber anyway.
/shrug
Or they have come out and said it.
Oh Fasc being muted? Yeah I have him muted. Not because of this topic though or any disagreement. It was more that he made a concerted and dishonest attack on me in another thread even trying to make out I had redacted heavily racist comments when he and I both knew I hadn’t. He was being unnecessarily confrontational and manipulative. Behaviour I found, when browsing his post history, was common place. I warned him numerous times that his behaviour would get him blocked and he ploughed ahead with his determined personal attacks. So I blocked him - permanently.
These forums don’t get moderated so the only way to stop forum bullies is to put them on ignore. It’s unfortunate because it makes discussion quite disjoint but then that’s on him not me. If he wasn’t behaving so poorly there wouldn’t have been a problem. Just argue the point and stop trying to trash people for sport and maybe you won’t get blocked.
So yeah, lets move on. I’m not obliged to talk to people I don’t wish to.
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