Then add it in SoD.
Frankly it doesn’t matter what people want for classic. It’s meant to be as close to the original game as possible.
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It’s already “the meta”. You’re in here trying to fight a battle that was already over years ago. That’s not an opinion it’s a statement of fact - if people want meta specs for their raids they’re already demanding them, dual spec or not
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It’s not tho. I can get into any 40 man pug raid with a pvp destro spec. SoM was the same way. The only variable was trying to get the class roles filled. Not sim specs. That would take forever, and there’s no point. You can do MC with 20 people. You can bring 58s. It’s fine.
Dual spec works to counter this beloved quality of classic era.
And you’ll be able to do the same with dual spec if you wished. Raids that don’t care about meta specs won’t suddenly vanish. Dual spec isn’t the bogeyman you think it is
What if the respec cost was lowered to 10g. Would that be acceptable?
Maybe. But I’m not willing to take the risk. Not in era classic.
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The thing you’re afraid of is already here
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That’s a circular response because I just gave an example of how I can get into any public pug raid with my pvp destro spec. So it’s not an all consuming problem… yet. But it could get there. Dual spec would serve to catalyze that process imo. So I don’t think think it’s worth the risk.
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The thing you seem to be afraid of is answering a simple question.
Why is the compromise of simply lowering respec costs so players who want to respec for PvP or PvE don’t go broke so fast not good enough for you?
Why can’t you answer that question?
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I for one want dual spec anyways, despite the downsides. Thanks
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That’s a totally fair opinion, and I applaud you for at least admitting there would be some downsides to just adding dual spec. 
Maybe you should try having faith in the “pure classic community” now and then
I can, but I’m not going to, because as I told you earlier I don’t answer irrelevant questions. Giving it the time of day only serves to derail the ongoing conversation. Pointing that out in fact is already doing so, so I won’t be addressing it further. You’re free to keep repeating the question if you wish but I won’t be paying it any more mind
Ok, no problem, we’ll mark that down as an unable to answer because it proves your entire assertion to be irrelevant.
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You haven’t said why it isn’t a QOL change, just given another random example of QOL. Why do you not think it’s QOL? You either pay 100g a week to respec twice for PVP, or 1000g upfront to get dualspec and can easily change to PVP/PVE rest of vanilla, without having to keep on respecing and changing your keybinds/bars. I feel like by definition it is QOL no? What part of it isn’t QOL?
If you run into someone in PVP that is in a PVP spec, you have absolutely no idea if they respected 100g that week, 1000g for dual spec, or they just perma play in PVP spec. It has no impact on your gameplay how much other people pay on respec each week. The only impact on your gameplay is if you buy it yourself, which is completely optional and something that could make your life easier.
By definition is a QOL change IMO.
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their argument is literally to argue about the argument
they don’t have reasons against it
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Yeah it might not change how the game is played. But it feasibly could. So it’s better to not risk it since this is classic era. This discussion is better suited for classic+ ideas.
My thread title was a little bit of clickbait, but if you look at what you quoted I said in the OP
“it is absolutely not just a Quality of Life change”
My point is that it is so much more than just a simple quality of life change like people are saying, and that it’s a major gameplay change, many people are even saying there’s literally no downside, which just isn’t true.
My point is also that if the main issue is the gold like you’re mentioning, that 100g every week, then wouldn’t a better solution be to simply reduce the cost of respecs so that people can respec more freely without going broke, and not change the Classic Vanilla gameplay essentially at all, then dual spec wouldn’t be necesscary and everybody wins?
The issue here is that lots of people love freshes in wow. And now one is happening. So people are lobbying for what they like in other versions of the game to happen in this fresh. But that’s not how era works. Blizzard has already mistakenly changed a couple things. Those changes should be rolled back. More shouldn’t be added because some tourists want a more ideal fresh game to play.
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You living under a rock?
I’ve been locked into 1 fire mage spec for ages in Naxx and it doesnt change. I dont even swap off it to farm open world anymore. I just brute force arcane explosion on packs over the fact I dont wanna bother spending gold all the time between raids and PvP.
We’re already within deep on parsing culture without dual spec. Have you been on whitemane? Yea. Probably not judging by your comment xD
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Ah okay sorry, I did miss the “just”, my bad.
I think every single change to the game will have some level of downside, but that doesn’t mean the downsides can’t be massively outweighed by the upsides. I think in this case the upsides massively outweigh the downsides.
I think lowering the gold cost is a solution for sure, and I’m not against it. But I think it’s a worse solution for both blizzard and for players. Blizzard lose the gold sink and players still don’t have a complete solution to the core issue imo which is you are asking players to try put a gold value on how much fun they think they can have in PVP in that week. Currently if I respec for PVP I need to try decide if I think I’ll actually do enough PVP to make it worth it, which is poor game design imo. If my mates are Qing a couple BGs on the weekend I need to decide if its worth 100g or whatever it gets decreased too, which as a concept I think is bad. If the price is lower its less bad, but its still bad imo.
I think a solution for everyone really is an expensive dual spec which can only be used in main cities.
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I’m talking about pugs. And I can get into any public pug raid I want with a pvp destro spec, so you’re wrong. But it might end up that way if dual spec is allowed. I don’t want anything that could possibly catalyze that.