It wouldn’t at all. It would be very convenient.
What I explained to you is what happens to raid pug meta. Cookie cutter sim specs will be all that’s taken in pugs. Currently, 40 mans are hard enough to fill just class roles. But this would further the expectation that all pugs have a cookie cutter because you now have multiple specs to choose from.
Sure. Pugs demanding people spend 10g to join their pug, when it’s the class role they need, would be silly and wouldn’t likely happen imo. The best case scenario is to leave things as is regarding respecs, but I see the trainer 10g compromise and less damaging.
Good.
Then we agree that it’s fine.
Thank god one of you has common sense.
I’ll go ahead and accept this concession. An inability to respond to a substantive rebuttal is an admission of loss. GG
You literally said dual spec would be very convenient.
You agreed with me.
I imagine you wear velcro shoes.
oh I’m so triggered. How dare you! oh no
lol
The funny part is you don’t even realize that you agreed with me.
You asked what the problem would be with dual spec swapping in a microcosm scenario with no other factors. If you meant something else, that’s fine. But a semantic gotcha doesn’t win you an argument, as I clearly disagree with you.
But if you’re unable to register the fact I disagree with you, then I don’t know what to tell you. If you now support my position, then I welcome you to the correct side standing against dual spec.
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Here is option 1.
You literally say it wouldn’t hurt the game at all and that it would be very convenient.
You literally agreed with me.
Are you really this daft?
Crudlord has no logical rebuttal to this. Watch him deflect and talk about something else. He can’t answer this:
What I explained to you is what happens to raid pug meta. Cookie cutter sim specs will be all that’s taken in pugs. Currently, 40 mans are hard enough to fill just class roles. But this would further the expectation that all pugs have a cookie cutter because you now have multiple specs to choose from.
Why would that happen with dual spec and not without dual spec?
Remember, I said dual spec without being able to be used inside of an instance.
Right now, someone isn’t going to be turned away if a pug needs that class. 40 mans are hard to fill. Dual spec furthers the expectation that you should have a cookie cutter spec set aside for raiding. You can say no it doesn’t, and that’s fine. It’s just not logical.
Any group wanting a cookie cutter spec when we have access to dual spec will also want it when there isn’t dual spec. They will just tell you to go to the trainer and have the same outcome.
Seriously, how are you this clueless?
I feel like I’m playing chess against a toddler.
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Why? It would take them forever to fill a 40 man pug when it’s easy content. With dual spec, that time becomes much shorter. It becomes potentially worth it to kick anyone without one since sim builds would be much more readily available.
Yes, we’re all excited to see what they’ll have for classic+
This is an era fresh tho. So you’ll have to wait.
Look clearly you don’t raid because you are totally oblivious to the fact that if a group wants a specific build they are going to either make you swap from your trash build or they’ll find someone else.
It’s not difficult to fill spots at all. Not to mention you don’t even need 40 people so a lot of the time they won’t even invite you simply because they don’t want some meme spec doing healer dps to get loot over their friends.
Right, but no one has time to be that picky in era 40 man pugs. Have you ever played era?
You mean with 5000 dps shooting messages to join?
Yeah, they don’t have time. You are their only option. You are messaging them in your meme spec, not willing to swap, and they are forced to invite you because there isn’t one other person on the megaserver trying to join.
Yep. Totally logical!
Yeah, it’s easy content. You can go with a frost mage and a fire mage. You will do the content easily. Waiting around for high parses in 40 man pugs is not viable right now because the average player doesn’t bother with sim builds. Dual spec can potentially change that.
Classic+ sounds like your gig tho.
Yes they certainly do.
Can you prove that you have completed raids?
Do you have a link to anything?