Like I said I’d love to know what other ideas they were white boarding when they settled on dual spec. Maybe one of those in retrospect would have addressed the problems in a way that some people think might have worked better. But we don’t know since by that point in TBC blizzard had stopped actively engaging the community. And it sounds like the current devs don’t have any better ideas either since all they can come up with is that they might try to restrict dual spec.
I would have been happier if they’d fixed the core gameplay issues that lead to people needing more spec options in the first place, issues which TBC’s design exacerbated. But that would have been a lot more effort than just throwing more specs at it.
Then-Blizzard made better quality products because they listened to feedback and made well-planned changes, generally improving over time and correcting their mistakes.
Now-Blizzard makes shots in the dark guesses, rushes changes, ignores player feedback, and generally doubles down on their mistakes.
Dual spec was a net positive for the game with very few (if any) downsides. The way it worked in WotLK was fine. If Blizzard wants to change that and stubbornly refuse to listen to feedback, it’s not our job to figure out a compromise that fits their childish and idiotic sensibilities. They’re the ones at fault. We’ll just play something else if they’re so intent on screwing it up.
But if I pay sub just to play Classic, retail becomes a “bonus” i have no value in.
Blizzard didn’t have my money before classic, regardless of retail. I’m sure same applies to a lot of other people. Some are here for TBC/Wrath and not for Shadowlands. To each their own.
What is up with all those changes? Dafaq???
What changes do the want to implement? Like what? If I want to swap my spec from Ret to prot mid RDF, cuz our tank is AFK or left, I should be able to do it.
Whats the point in giving them constructive criticism they have shown time after time they are going to ignore the community and just do what they want.
on my paladin alone I have spent roughly 3800g on respecs, the thought of limiting dual spec in any way is cringe and bad. its all fun and games until your tank dcs, and you are stuck as a dps because blizzard made a bad rule and now your run is dead
dual spec should be left as if. this is just another pointless change no one wants and is literally only going to upset folks. stop trying to police how we play the game.
While that may be true for some classes. I can assure you that some of the most meta PvP builds for a few classes in wrath were hybrids. Mut/prep for example. Sure those classes are definitely the minority though and most classes took the end talent out of necessity.
Nevertheless I felt it necessary to make the distinction that they do exist and are definitely optimal for some classes.
Ahh, I think we were talking about PVE, seeing as that’s the setting where a raid could potentially “pressure” a player who wanted to run a hybrid spec into picking a more optimal spec.
This is yet another example of the devs being completely out of touch and claiming to know what the players want without ever asking for our input. They seem to forget that they should be acting as caretakers for classic, not gatekeepers.
They have one job - Give us the game we all campaigned for. The devs get so much hate because they have an addiction to changing things that nobody asked for. They just cant help themselves and they never learn from their behaviour.
I’m all for having Dual spec because I really like tanking in Wrath on my warrior. TBC has been an absolute mess for tanking that I haven’t bothered much.
So since players will want to get started on dungeons as fast as possible then it’s nice for those of us that would be interested to have that as an option while maintaining our DPS sets and skills for the later raids.
You are in a 10m raid and the boss you are doing requires a 3rd healer. Billy the ele shaman has volunteered to heal for that boss, you kill the boss quickly and now billy doesnt need to play resto anymore. Billy is stuck as resto for an hour for no apparent reason other than artificial time gating. Dual spec was fine when it was released and has had like no changes to it since, what isn’t broken does not need to be fixed.
