you people put too much shine on the MCP. never used one and never will. its not a necessity.
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I recall my guild in vanilla had both pally and Druid tanks.
They were never main tanks, but they did tank.
PS; correction, we had a pally that main tanked in ZG.
Warriors generate better threat, letting your DPS actually do their rotation at / near full speed, that reduces the time the boss is alive, reducing the probability of your healers going oom and people making mistakes on the mechanics.
TPS is insanely important when you consider the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th order effects.
Most of vanilla tanking is built around the potential for things to spiral out of control, with taunt as the only backstop against it.
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It’s not. However without it you will be tied with the warrior tanks when you are dpsing, and wont be able to generate as much threat as a warrior when you are tanking. I wouldn’t suggest farming them, or even playing a druid if you want to tank for that matter, but that item turns a terrible dps class into a viable one. Without bags full of MCP, a feral druid is being carried.
except Warrior shouts ain’t producing threat in Beta = rip war aoe threat
That is why we have a beta.
tell that to every troll who has said that mashing X to gain RECK charges is a bannable offence and will be removed by Blizzard lol
Who has said it’s bannable?
like this entire thread lol
or here
/facepalm
or here in my thread
I’ve never said it is bannable, it is however an exploit. Whether or not Blizzard decides to fix it is up to them.
Is this another situation where you think that exploits are always bannable?
i wasn’t singling any particular person out - simply making a general statement
GoT time, timeout.
Palaab, (and anybody else that doesn’t know) here’s your answer:
At 440 Defense, a raid boss cannot melee crit you. We call this the Defense cap. Warriors achieve this via raid tier gear, Pallies and Bears don’t.
Now, there’s this thing called Crushing blows, bosses got ~15% chance to do it in their melee tables. Warriors are the only tank able to push Crushing blows off the boss table through a talent called Improved Shield Block (75% Block Chance) and it’s pre-rec talent Shield Specialization (5% Block Chance).
Warriors easily prevent themselves from being one-shotted or two-shotted by a boss’s crit and crushing table output. So as you see, it’s not really so much about taunting.
They can, but it is sub-optimal and a burden to the other members of the raid… think of it like a relay team, as long as everyone is on the same page it doesn’t matter, have a few drinks the night before and rock up running it for fun, no problem… however if 3 of the team are taking the competition [semi-]serious and only one guy is out drinking the night before. Its not really fair to the other members of the group.
I think this is the really the only correct answer. It’s the one issue you cannot get around until BC and beyond.
It doesn’t mean you can’t offtank of tank lower content. But main tanking raid bosses it’s a gamble.
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Tanking bosses as a paladin is on my Classic WoW bucket list.
Yes i know, it won’t happen in your raid yadda yadda yadda…
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Imp Shield Block only gave shield block 1 extra block, you didn’t need it on slow hitters. On very fast hitters you could potentially still be crushed if it got in a 3rd hit before you could refresh shield block.
Even then, Crushing blows are only 150% normal damage. It’s not that devastating to eat 1 and at a 15% chance it’s not that common to eat multiples of them, especially for druids who have very high dodge ratings and high armor/stam.
Itemization, raid design, and skills and abilities simply make it better that a warrior tanks in the majority of cases.
How does an OOM Paladin generate threat?
crushing blows are nothing in the grand scheme o things just ask Feral Druids who eat both Crushing blows and crits
and a Paladin can achieve crit cap with pre-raid gear
never mind the fact that dual wield Fury tanks are literally saying to you, “Hold my beer…”