I was confused about this too… My initial thought when I saw your post hidden was that it was a troll post meant to inflame. But having gone through all the posts in this thread, up to this point, I cannot see any reason for anyone to flag you-- Other than someone being mad that you called the expansion bad. lol
No, I don’t think you did anything wrong… Now, if you had linked to Reddit, there is a thing in their code of conduct that says they dont want you linking to other forums, but you just took a few quotes.
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The issue is that WoW has a wide range of players who want vastly different things.
Open world players and casuals enjoy WQ, Mission tables, Titan-Forging.
Hardcore players just want to do instance content.
You can’t make either side happy without one side getting upset.
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I don’t quite know why, but i’m incredibly indifferent to Dragonflight. I leveled one toon to 70, then dropped azure span mid quest and went to the capitol. Tried an alt, got to 64, and…
I log in. I am kind of at a loss for what to do, where to start. Finish the basic story, kill 10 vall draken boars this time? Random dungeon? Not sure what even the story is anymore.
I came back and spent 20 minutes riding around that new cavern till I found a flight path, but that place didn’t grab me, wasn’t sure what I was to do there.
Did Shadowlands break my brain so bad I’m too stupid now to understand how to play WoW? Because even though I played since BC, I log on and just can’t figure out what to do next. Even Professions seem impenetrable now.
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I disagree. The style of player doesn’t impact what they enjoy. I do high end Mythic raiding but I spend 90% of my time playing outside of the raid. I want world content to be impactful, I want there to be a reason for me as a player to go out into the world and gain something more than just a battle pet or a title.
There is such an insane issue of title fatigue that rewarding titles is almost 0 value, even mounts to an extent. When we’re thrown 30 mounts where they’re recolors of the same 4 models it’s also creating mount fatigue imo.
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The xpac isnt bad people are playing less because there are no mandatory borrowed power systems or rep grinds forcing you to play just to keep up so people are able to have freedom to do other things nice try though
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If you polish a turd, it’s still a turd. WoW’s current developers have no idea how to make a great game. Maybe Blizzard shouldn’t have pushed away those that actually made the game “king of MMOs”. And Ion Hazzacostas is a laughable joke. RIP WoW, was an amazing game for the first 7 years of it’s life.
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D4 and cod mw2 got in the way. I love df but haven’t been playing enough. Subbed for a year though so don’t matter
One thing does not invalidate the other, m8.
DF is a great expansion and it is the kind of expansion you can AFK for months if you want.
Feeling like I have to play it everyday has been proven to bring burnout and make terrible expansions.
It is fine to log once to do your M+ and then play other games. It is fine that reps are carefree now. It is fine that most mechanics are now alt friendly.
Dragonflight freed us and that’s freaking wonderful. This is what most of the community wanted. This is why people aren’t 24/7 spamming the game. We are happy doing other stuff.
It didn’t “last”. It was forced to farm. Those are two very different things. Be happy that your guild mates can do other stuff now.
Because it is good. Because this is the point of balance. Because DF has everything for everyone while at the same time you don’t NEED to do any of that stuff if you don’t want to. That’s freedom.
Until another decent mmorpg comes along WoW doesn’t need to stay high quality to survive.
It is pretty… boring, world content wise. Quests and dailies, 70%+ of the time are you not playing your character but some poorly designed and coded minigame instead of the game itself.
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All those companies release financial reports, you can look them up yourself. They’re all thriving.
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Yep,I like Dragonflight, but I dont play 24 7 anymore. I have fun when I log in,its enjoyable, but making it less grindy gave us the option to have a life outside this game. Doesnt in any way make it bad. If anything it made WOW better.
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I played a lot at the start but after getting 2 toons to max level I just lost interest, play maybe an hour or two per week now and have moved on to other games.
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I quit and unsubbed because I just could not wrap my head around doing my season 2 set bonuses. I worked so hard on my season 1 set bonus on my druid for all specs, it took me basically all of S1 to complete all 4 specs and I’m just not doing it anymore. I got game time til October and all I played of June was rushing down my trading post all at once last minute on the 29th. The hard resets and item attrition is just getting more and more taxing as time goes on, and for some reason they wont even give us a few month to use the items anymore.
Not to mention this insane shotgun blast of S2 currencies, like give us a new bag slot if you’re going to introduce that much crap all at once. This came just weeks after FR added like 40 new item types. Oh yeah, why not break valor out into a bunch of asinine inventory slot stealers, what a great idea! The game is just getting more and more bloated and more and more rushed, a horrible combo.
Oh really? NCSOFT revenue is down and they failed to meet revenue forcasts for the last 2 quarters. So I guess you can take GW2 off your list of “thriving” games
And the NCSOFT west CEO left plus they laid of 20% of their employees
https://www.kedglobal.com/tech%2C-media-telecom/newsView/ked202302030022
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Good job cherry-picking a piece of financial data there buddy.
These games wouldn’t be putting out expansions if they weren’t making money.
I still don’t see how this relates to the conversation, Anyone with half a brain can see that other big MMOs are doing just fine. They might not have WoW type numbers, but they’re making money.
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Good question. You’re the one who brought up financial statements, lol.
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Right, and if you read the article I posted, they talk about the financials of GW2.
NCSOFT is a giant publisher, they have tons of games under their portfolio.
I’m out of this convo with you, because you just want to troll here. Keep padding that post count 10k, yikes!!!
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Its funny because that artricle goes through all of their financial claims and explains how they are vague and potentially misleading. I have to wonder of you read past the headline.
Like this gem…
"So we reached out to both Davis and ArenaNet’s PR a week and a half ago to get to the bottom of it, but the revised statement from the studio is just as vague.
“Josh was referring to sales figures, which diverge from revenue data commonly observed in financial reports,” a studio spokesperson told us yesterday afternoon. “Our sales data is assessed within shorter time intervals, and although we refrain from disclosing precise details, Josh’s initial statement remains correct.”
We actually sent back more questions for the team after this statement as it’s just as confusing, but the studio just repeated, “We can’t get into any more specifics about accounting practices, but we can confirm our statement is accurate based on the way we internally compare Q1 numbers year over year.”
Or
that ArenaNet has “seen over a million new Guild Wars 2 fans play the game.” That quote didn’t specify a time period for that population boost (or mention how many of them stayed or purchased an expansion), but the context implied that it’s since the Steam launch as Davis said, “These new users aren’t all coming in through Steam – we’re seeing a good proportion of them coming in through GuildWars2[.]”
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Gameplay wise DF is an amazing expansion. Story wise it’s meh. I’ve heard a lot of people complain about lack of thing like fomo chores and pathfinder achievements which were two of the things that made me quit. The problem with WoW players is there is a bunch of micro section. I played WoW from 2004/2011 pretty much steadily before quitting for college so when I think of WoW I think of it differently than somebody who may of started in MoP. I think there is a whole generation of WoW players who genuinely enjoyed the grindy chores of the pathfinder achievements. There are people who generally enjoy the cellphone mobile game design that was modern WoW before DF
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