At the end of the day, whether it’s one or two there’s going to be people wishing for the “everyone becomes everything” memo.
I believe they’re taking that in the right direction at least with the introduction of most races in DF being rogues, mages and what else (I can’t remember) so who knows, maybe my dream of a blood elf druid will happen one day lol.
I’ve been following the WoW “bad times” since I stopped playing in June of 2021. Keeping up reading what’s coming, what’s happening…
I haven’t read a single thing that will make me purchase DF. I mildly regret having bought a month of game time twice in that span to kick around in my old haunt.
For me. World of Warcraft ended.
Watching this past year has made that painfully obvious. Not one shred of news, not a single announcement has contained a single thing I considered “for me”.
As an individual player, that’s the sign that it’s over.
They aren’t coding for my play-style anymore. They haven’t for years.
All of these changes… they all smack of “been here before. Done that.”
Yep it’s clear that not only is blizz not going to be quick about making changes, but also that there is still that wonderful subset of the forums who want it to stay this way forever, or at least till the race they wanted comes out and can’t be a role they play.
Not a race, but there seem to be plenty of warrior B/Nelfs!
This time they added a race that is stuck in those same slot restrictions. So not only can a raid only have x evokers that is also the same number of people in that raid group playing Dracthyr.
It’s less that the class can’t for most people but that the race can’t. Sure a Black dragon flight themed tank would be awesome (especially since the leader of that dragon flight made the Dracthyr and barely gave them any black abilities) but just having the option to warrior on the new race would have been nice.
Not quite see those elves can play all 4 roles just fine which is all we want for the Dracthyr to be able to do.
Ion said it’s a possibility down the line. Nobody has said for sure they are opening it up.
Honestly if you don’t mind can I ask why, and more importantly what would be bad about a greater variety for the new race?
Hinted at vaguely, nothing confirmed nor planned at this time.
Couple of things,
Yes races have always had restrictions, however other that pre-cata gnomes no class has been completely locked out of entire roles.
They never stated that, they said it might happen down the line. Just like so many other things we are still waiting on.
“lore reasons” works for things that have been around in the game for while, but not when you are writing the lore for the first time during the expansion.
I look at it from a hobby fiction writers point of view. An ancient dragonoind race is not going to care about “blending in” with the mortal races to make them more “trustworthy.” Especially when we have Worgen, Pandaren, Vulpera, Tauren and other creature races running around the world. Not to mention every race on Azeroth has experience with dragons/dragonoid creatures. So to say the Dracthyr need to hide in a visage form is ridiculous and not needed.
As to the race being locked to one class, I’m ok with that in for now. They were created and taught only one way. Now if in the future Blizzard wants to expand the race to say warriors and/or rogues bc they have learned these other skills from the mortal races that’s fine. It’s like teaching a kid, you don’t just hand them a sword and shield and expect them to be masters at using them. I don’t, however, think they should be opened up to other magic classes. For me personally, (again from a writers standpoint) I don’t think the Dracthyr would trade down.
Now for the class being locked. It’s my hope that this remains in place. The Evoker class uses the magic of the dragon flights. It would stand to reason (and imo) make sense that dragon blood/essence would be necessary to access the magic.
I’m not totally against options, I just feel like the current story writers have been on this slow burning crusade to destroy and rewrite the history of the beautiful world that was created. As someone who understands how incredibly difficult it is to build an entire fantasy world from the ground up and maintain it through evolution, it’s disheartening to see parts of the story thrown out to make something else fit.
I understand not everyone will agree with me, including you possibly. There are ppl out there who care only for game play options and the story means nothing to them. That’s fine. The problem lies in trying to balance it out for those who love the story and world building as well. I hope I added at least some clarity for you.
Couldn’t gnomes be DKs in Wrath or am I misremembering that? Honest question.
No, it’s still a non-issue.
A brand new class we’ve never seen before, on a brand new race we’ve never seen before that has been sealed away for centuries (or more).
It stands to reason that the two would be joined and not available to any other race, or that they wouldn’t be able to be anything other than that one thing.
Consider them like robots that were programmed a long time ago with a preset skillset.
They don’t need to be anything else, and we don’t need to be like them.
It’s a feature of Asian Market MMO’s to have race/gender locked classes and it’s obvious the message they got from the mass exodus to Final Fantasy wasn’t the message the player base was actually sending.
Sadly, it is what it is at this point, and hopefully we’re wrong and Dragonflight ends up being comeback it’s being hyped up to be…but as you’ve pointed out in the OP it doesn’t seem so since Blizzard insists on learning things the hard way.
Gender/race locked classes have been “a thing” for YEARS. I have games from the 80s that show this and I’m sure if we went into some tabletop games from before that we’d find more of the same. It has nothing to do with “the Asian MMO market”.
It also has nothing to to with any sort of “exodus” to FF and a desire to “be like them”. In fact, I would think the desire to be different from them would be more prevalent here, hence the reason we are getting playable humanoid dragons.
I’m convinced you are, because you (and others in this thread) simply don’t understand the direction they’re taking here. And since we’ve only seen a small part of the “story so far” and barely anything of the game at large, I’d say we don’t have a full enough picture to make judgements like this yet.