Also thinking about the dragons not using weapons thing, I could be wrong since it’s been a while but doesn’t Ebyssian fight with you during some of the quest with him?
I really think Blizzard was BSing us. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dracthyr stays Evoker only.
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If he’s using weapons, he must be in visage form.
Sure and they can listen to me complain on here and on twitter for how ever long I keep playing if they are. Don’t hype false hope if you wanna flip off part of the player base just pull the bandage off and get it over with.
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did you even read what I said?
Yes but you were making the point that none of the dragons did even that, you even said Wrathion just had his for show. So we do have precedent for even the big boys to swing a weapon around, which means it’s not far fetched for Dracthyr either.
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I said they were looking into opening the restrictions, and they said ALL races. Not select ones like you’ve said. Or tried to say they said.
Which is accurate
I’m also on my phone and can’t easily quote things. But AGAIN they did NOT say Soar was a Racial thing.
They said the ONLY racials were tail sweep and Wing Buffet.
Watch the opening of the Holinka interview, and stop making crap up.
They NEVER said that Soar is a Dracthyr thing. They’ve only said it was an Evoker thing.
Just like DH gliding is a DH thing and not a Night or Blood Elf thing.
It’s also hilarious that you can’t really back up your counterpoints with lore in universe things like I have MULTIPLE times.
Honestly it’s kinda sad.
No we don’t. Despite Wrathion having a weapon on his person, he never uses it. It’s just a prop. Dracthyr visage forms are going to be the same, and your weapons will just be stat sticks.
You seem to be confused here; Evoker abilities are Dracthyr racial abilities. Everything and anything an Evoker does is made possible by the Dracthyr race. They are one in the same.
Thus, the only way you can logically make a Dracthyr warrior is by also giving them Evoker abilities, unless you want to break the lore.
Not Wrathion but Ebyssion who stayed a Highmountian most of that questline.
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t swinging the weapon in dragon form.
Right I think you are missing the point up thread you made a huge point about the weapons just being stat sticks and that dragons wouldn’t use them and even said that we never say Wrathion use his in visage. I’m providing an example of a dragon who does just that fights with a weapon, so if dragons would use a weapon when needed nothing precludes the ones with opposable thumbs from doing so either.
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Okay, but once again, did Ebyssian use the weapon in Visage form or Dragon form? Dracthyr is the true form of the race, and it is a dragon form.
Which has opposable thumbs and, according to what we know, is supposed to be adaptable. It’s not beyond the pale that weapons might be considered especially against flying foes, or in situations where sustaining spell casting runs the risk of draining the caster. Because if we are gonna have a lore fight on a subject is needs to make sense internally. Dragons don’t do it so a dragon race wouldn’t either needs more than that because we already deviated from real dragons by not using our claws and teeth to the fullest either.
We actually do see him use one in a cutscene in BfA, where he stabs N’zoth.
No they are not, and NEVER have been or ever will be. That’s why they said Dracthyr and Evoker are separate things.
If they wanted it the way that you’re trying to falsely paint. They would’ve just had an Evoker hero class, that some races could be. Where the race would be the visage form.
But they didn’t go that route, and are constantly using the wording that Dracthyr and Evoker are different.
Like when the COMBAT director says some abilities are Dracthyr Racials, and not CLASS abilities. That right there should be your biggest indicator, for how wrong you are.
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So, we are going to be expected to wait 2yrs or more to see any of this come to pass. A new race is supposed to be exciting but instead it is limiting. If people want to be a Drac’thyr they are not all going to get raid slots as Evokers. So as a new race/class it is limited out of the gate to raiders.
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True, not to mention if you’re the tank for your mythic + or raid group you’re just out of luck to begin with.
Evokers are cool but the fact that they cannot tank means the class isn’t versatile enough to have an entire race stuck with it and it alone.
They really need other classes. lol
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Yeah some people fail to realize that not every raiding guild has 30 people waiting in the wings to step up if a tank wants to swap out to something else. If I were to swap to evoker, it would likely mean that the someone who got moved would feel pressured about it.
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more class options I agree but evokers don’t need a tank spec
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Or you’d potentially even no longer have a spot on the raid team, depending on the guild.