Dracthyr should just be a class available to all races, (any race for visage form) and it should have a crazy talent tree for any kind of role. A tree for every dragon aspect. Flexing the new talent tree system.
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Not only after.
During Dragonflight
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No, it’s not a copy of Rain From Above. Holinka said plainly that soar was going to be a major part of the class, not some one off PvP talent you can’t use in dungeons or raids.
Further, Rain from Above only allows you to use a single type of attack. Soar let’s you use your actual rotational abilities. Which means that DEs are going to be constantly flying around the battlefield.
Incorrect. It’s a race feature because Evokers were designed with Dracthyr in mind and vice versa. The race and class are one in the same.
This is irrelevant. Blood Elves weren’t designed to be race/class combination. Dracthyr were.
Those are trained abilities. The Dracthyr have draconic breath and flight naturally. In other words, they are born with those abilities.
Why would I ask about Draenei tail attacks? Blizzard never designed Draenei in such a way. However, that is how they designed Dracthyr.
And no, Wing Buffet and Tail Sweep are not enough. Dracthyr are dragons with wings and fire breath. It would be quite odd for a Dracthyr to not fly around with his wings, or shoot magic from his mouth.
Dragon mounts are not the dragons I’m talking about, and you know that. Wrathion, Alexstraza, and Kalecgos don’t wear armor or use weapons in dragon form. Nor should Dracthyr.
Holinka stated plainly that Dracthyr transform from Visage to Dragon via magic. You need to watch the interview.
This has already been addressed.
And Druids, and Paladins, and Death Knights. Further, them opening the Dracthyr to other classes is not confirmed. They said it is something they are open to considering. That’s not the same thing as what you’re saying.
Again, look at Alexstraza, Kalecgos, Wrathion, Nozdormu, and others in dragon form and look for a weapon. You won’t find it. Not only would it be dumb for a dragon to carry a weapon, but it would be pointless.
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So you’re saying that the disabled Dracthyr become other classes?
To expand on this further Dracthyr can’t even take a visage form when they first awaken. They learn that magical ability later on in their quest. I assume from other dragons. That’s interesting and cool.
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If you want to call them that …
Yeah the not fully powered Dracthyr may become other classes.
Which makes them carrying weapons outside of Visage form all the more strange. That said, yeah, I’m loving the deep dragon lore that we get to experience as Dracthyr. More please!
I don’t think that’s a good incentive to have someone roll a Dracthyr Shaman or Warrior.
You have other Dracthyr learning to use Soar and Dream Breath, while you have to be taken aside because you’re mentally or physically disabled and need to learn something else…
Also if their entire starting zone is them restoring their memory of being a Dracthyr, it would be weird to have to install a class trainer for other classes.
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DH was a tank… and that didn’t change a thing.
I never said they have class trainers in their starting area.
Other classes would start at a lower level like Allied Races.
Only Evoker the fully evolved Dracthyr start at 58.
Also what is wrong with Dracthyr that may have only a certain affinity?
Not all in Life is the same …
Also they are mentally exactly the same, just have not the ability to cast a certain spell/power.
The more they go into the lore of the dracthyr and the story they want to tell with them the more it makes sense why they can’t be anything else. at least in the beginning.
You would have to, unless we start having Dracthyrs appear outside their starting zone, which would make little sense. The entire point of the race’s lore is that you awaken from thousands of years of stasis, and you have to remember how to be a dragon again via your Evoker abilities. Take that away, and now you have a race that stops making sense.
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I know that … but that doesn’t have to say that after the start of the expansion, Dracthyr could get access to other classes …
It all could be explored in a quest at Evoker Max level.
You basically learn that some Dracthyr never got to venture out as Evoker
You remember what you have seen in the faction capitals and tell them there is still a whole world that can be explored and that they don’t have to be an Evoker.
but so is it for other races too!
Lightforged DK?
Void Priest?
Warrior Belf?
Tauren Rogue/Draenai Rogue?
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It’s an R.C.C. from the tabletop RPG game R.I.F.T.S.
They are considering that possibility but I wouldn’t expect it for some time after dragonflight launch. It’s not part of the story they want to tell at the beginning. Maybe in the future.
You are speaking to one that already has argued in both ways all over this thread and other threads on that topic 
I know they might consider it.
But I’d really like a confirmation of sorts.
I know that. The most likely reason we don’t have any confirmation is it isn’t even a plan at this point. merely a possibility.
Enemies that are resistant to magic and fire. And why does everyone keep bringing up flying overhead like somehow Deathwing never imagined his army might fight flying foes?
Sadly nothing has confirmed that, we can hope but I’ve seen to many things dropped after early interviews in my time.
See and there in lies my biggest issue, the devs need to stop double talking about the race because it’s giving wrong impressions. If Soar and all that are going to be intrinsically linked to the race as much as people want to make it out to be then you are right other classes seems hard to reason, but at the same time assuming that it leads that Evoker then needs to have a tank spec to prevent a full spec lock out to the race.
If one the other hand those abilities are not so linked to the race as much as class training, then there is no reason to hold off of other options and they should be handled and done sooner rather than later.
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I gotcha, but the problem is that this has to happen AFTER you’ve been reacclimatizing yourself to being an Evoker. Now, you stop that, abandon your natural abilities, and become something else. That is…… strange.
Honestly, Dracthyrs not being Evokers makes less sense then those examples.