Don't Nerf Our Mounts!

[Eican-draenor]

Woo I have the choice to lock my character into water walking OR anti daze wooooo.

You are a prot paladin you are naturally immune to being dazed.

[Släshcry-area-52 (Släshcry)]

Rep grind unfair to those that did it? You mean the 3 brainless quests per day for a couple weeks? Please. I did them too and acting like it’s so unfair is laughable about all the work you did.

The system per character and a gold sink is laughable again. They said it’s probably 1k each. 1k gold is also a joke.

The bad precedent is to make way for a better system so that others don’t have to do a pointless quest system for something that actually affects gameplay.

[Madbaggins-nordrassil]

This.

It is only a percieved nerf. You’re not losing anything.

It is a small thing, but it follows a trend. All mounts all classes all abilities are moving toward generic. You have to spend less time thinking about what race or class or mount to select because they are all moving toward two button simplicity. Some people rail about how boring some of the classes have become for this reason, one or two abilities, yet it continues to spread. Will we become two factions of indistinct faceless avatars in blue and red coveralls that all have the same abilities? Not necessary for an exciting game that sometimes requires thinking and strategy.

[Orlena-frostmourne]

I am already sick of this complaint…

Water striders are not getting nerfed, they are given a free water walking equipment already mounted for free. You can just pay to get a different upgrade.

I don’t know about you, but that’s not a nerf.

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

Positive - People who are playing non-DKs are no longer limited to using the waterstrider as their one and only world mount pre-flight if they want to avoid getting stuck in deep water.

They’re not limited to that now. There are water walking potions. It may not be an option you like, but if it bothers you that much, stock up, man. It’s a valid choice.

if it does cost around 1000g, that’s super trivial.

It may be trivial for you, but I have more than 40 alts above level 20 and another 15 that could hit 20 at any time. 40-50k gold is very much a lot for me.

For the rest of us, we have no options for water walking unless we use the waterstrider.

See my first point. There are almost always options. If this really is the problem that you and others and Blizzard think it is, there are plenty of ways they could have resolved it without alienating and sabotaging the part of the customer base that likes and appreciates the functionality we currently have.

[Släshcry-area-52 (Släshcry)]

They’re not limited to that now. There are water walking potions. It may not be an option you like, but if it bothers you that much, stock up, man. It’s a valid choice.

You’re comparing a 10-minute elixir to a permanent-lasting buff. Not even close to a valid choice.

It may be trivial for you, but I have more than 40 alts above level 20 and another 15 that could hit 20 at any time. 40-50k gold is very much a lot for me.

50k is a lot for you? Why don’t you use some of those alts to max out a profession to make that gold easily so you can pay for 50-100 alts.

See my first point. There are almost always options. If this really is the problem that you and others and Blizzard think it is, there are plenty of ways they could have resolved it without alienating and sabotaging the part of the customer base that likes and appreciates the functionality we currently have.

You mean the playerbase that has 50+ alts and can’t spare 50k gold? What fraction of the playerbase is that?

Still laughing at the fact that you can’t spare 50k for 50 alts.

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

50k is a lot for you? Why don’t you use some of those alts to max out a profession to make that gold easily so you can pay for 50-100 alts.

Most of my alts are under level 100. A good portion are under level 60 and can’t even fly. I play the game in the way that’s fun for me. Focusing on earning gold isn’t fun.

My point is that it’s very self centered and narrow minded to assume that just because tens of thousands of gold is trivial for you, it’s trivial for everyone.

You mean the playerbase that has 50+ alts and can’t spare 50k gold? What fraction of the playerbase is that?

No, I mean the player base that isn’t looking forward to having to pay any amount and take extra steps to regain functionality that we currently enjoy.

[Släshcry-area-52 (Släshcry)]

I’d be okay if they treated the waterstrider with waterwalking and couldn’t get enhanced - like the Sky Golem.

But you people who freak out at the costs - struggling to keep 50k… I just can’t fathom it. I’m not riding around on a long boi, but 50k seems strange. Just in leveling my hunter from 110 to 120 and I’ve earned like 20k gold in about 2 weeks. I just don’t get it.

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

But you people who freak out at the costs - struggling to keep 50k… I just can’t fathom it.

I’m not freaking out, but it is a slap in the face to have to pay anything to get back something that I can use now without any additional cost.

Edited to add: Also, I’m not struggling to keep 50k, but for my main to spend that much would put a huge dent in her savings. In addition, I like to keep my alts as independent as possible. My main on each faction will give each new alt a few hundred gold and a set of netherweave bags, but then I expect that alt to be self sufficient. 1000 gold is a lot to a low level character, even now. Again, different play styles.

[Släshcry-area-52 (Släshcry)]

Should use “slap in the face”… that’s basically trademarked by Raistlin.

Also strange that you want your alts to be mostly independent, but then you’ll use a waterstrider those alts can’t possibly earn until lvl 90…

[Tsavis-area-52 (Tsavis)]

I have been trying to find this out do you know if we can use different for example can we use water Walking On One Mount and then anti dazing on another mount for example. Also if we can stay mounted on our sky going in herb and then choose another piece of equipment on the sky Golem why can’t we have it that way on are water striders. I’m not complaining I’m genuinely curious about why things are this way.

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

Also strange that you want your alts to be mostly independent, but then you’ll use a waterstrider those alts can’t possibly earn until lvl 90…

Apparently, I should have said financially independent. They also share heirlooms and other BoAs, and I’ll share gold across alts for those things, but for something that only benefits that one character, that one character needs to buy it without getting gold from my main or other alts.

do you know if we can use different for example can we use water Walking On One Mount and then anti dazing on another mount

The new mount equipment items are used at the character level and can’t be stacked. The character uses one item and it applies to all of that character’s mounts. If the character is using water walking, then all of that character’s mounts have water walking. If that character wants to switch to anti dazing, then all mounts will lose water walking and get anti dazing.

then choose another piece of equipment on the sky Golem

Sky golem is exempt and doesn’t benefit from any mount equipment items.

I’m not complaining I’m genuinely curious about why things are this way.

Only Blizzard can answer that. Lord only knows why they set it up this way, but I’m sure it’s for reasons that are different from what they’re actually telling us.

[Tsavis-area-52 (Tsavis)]

Okay no big deal I was just hoping I could have different things on different characters if it’s changeable by character then I don’t mind I honestly did not use water Strider until this expansion anyway but it’ll be nice to know that I can in the future if I choose to on any character

[Truthspeaker-alleria (Truthspeaker)]

Okay no big deal I was just hoping I could have different things on different characters if it’s changeable by character

Each character can have a different effect, yes. It’ll apply to all of that character’s mounts. You can have one character will all water walking mounts and one with all anti daze mounts if you want.

[Tsavis-area-52 (Tsavis)]

Well that’s actually pretty cool now what I’m wondering is if there is a piece of flying equipment that will make all of my mounts fly so I can fly on my Sea Ray for example or my seahorse that would be so cool I know you don’t have all the answers but I do appreciate your help thank you very much

[Memberberry-caelestrasz]

I genuinely don’t understand, if people are aware of the above 3 facts, how anyone can be upset at this?

• If I have a Waterstrider currently I don’t NEED any equipment to make it work.

• If I have a toon at ANY level above 20 currently, I can already use this Waterstrider. No need to wait until level 100.

• If I have a Waterstrider currently I am not required to purchase ANY additional equipment regardless of the cost, which any alt can already use when they unlock mounts at level 20.

So you see, people are upset because they are having more restrictions placed on things that have worked perfectly fine for the better part of a decade.

Your water strider will be able to do exactly what it does now. I genuinely don’t understand what the problem is.

If it does exactly what it does now, why even change it? Seems like a lot of coding work to achieve nothing if that is the case.

Just another change in BFA that Blizzard has made to make the game less enjoyable.

It is only a percieved nerf. You’re not losing anything.

But we aren’t really gaining anything either, so what is the point of the changes?

[Hummything-winterhoof]

So having one mount dominate all other mounts by having multiple abilities is okay

Why not? Currently, the water strider already dominates by virtue of water walking, and anyone that wants that ability can farm the rep to get the strider. It’s not difficult by any stretch of the imagination.

Like so many of the mythic raiders like to say, if you’re not willing to put in the time to acquire a piece of gear, don’t complain that you don’t have the power/abilities that is granted by that gear.

[Melania-arthas]

I wasn’t aware you could sell striders for profit, genius

[Pattyz-area-52]

There are tons of different sets of gear, and different paths to get that gear-outside of mythic raiding (raids, mythic dungeons , weekly chests, PVP, plus warforge/titanforge chances to upgrade the gear. Meanwhile, only the strider walks on water out of about 700 mounts… clearly there is a difference in the degree of difficulty here.

[Deaconjones-moon-guard (Deaconjones)]

okay so leave the strider as is, and if you want your other mounts to walk on water then use the item. There is no need to nerf the strider.