The ability to walk on water already requires rep and currency. You don’t know how much dev time took place for this or who worked on it at all. I am 100% happy with the changes since I don’t have to look at the stupid bug anymore. Next imho would be a mount shrinker so I can actually use most mounts and get through doorways or not get stuck going up the stairs of the horde boat.
I’m down for that. There are already a lot of flying horse models. Just go all in.
You matter less than the majority.
I get it’s a gripe.
But I think the people who are complaining are inflating the negatives. So I don’t think your gripe means nothing, but it’ll it seems pretty trivial.
You don’t know how much dev time took place for this or who worked on it at all
- Farm the rep from the Anglers for the Water Strider, which can only get about 3 dailies a day from the rep
- Spend gold to get the mount
All for what?
- The mount to have its ability to be removed
- Mount equipment to be available for the mount to do what it was meant to do
- And having to continue buying the equipment for alts to use as well.
Yeah, nothing to be benifit from this. All a massive lost.
And I feel like I am benefiting from this. Its almost like something like perception is subjective or something. In my eyes people are throwing a fit over nothing, or at the very least, a system we do not know everything about.
Oh make no mistake this is just a trial run for the general nerfing of all mount abilities into equipment slots. Want a transmoger on your mount? Just add in the transmoger equipment! Oh sorry we’ve removed that baseline from the yak, but you can lock all your mounts into having it by buying the equipmnet! Joy! -flight, herbing, repair vendor, passenger carry, say buh bye and helloooo equipment
I think that suggestion is fine. I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
I just think you’re amplifying the complaint a bit.
The point of this is to remove flying from flying mounts.
Also, why do I have to reteach water walking to my strider, which it already knows how to do?
This is easily solved by doing the same thing they’re already doing with the Sky Golem. The water strider keeps its water walking but it doesn’t get affected by equipment. That’s what a lot of players are asking for.
Mount equipment wouldn’t sound like such a bad idea if it were per mount instead of per character. Have a “water walking mount”, a “no daze mount”, a “whatever other equipment there is mount”. Then I’d be using a variety of mounts for different situations.
Currently, each character can have water walking (on two mildly different colored water striders in my case). Future, as I understand it, I need to pay for each character to have water walking (all characters need to pay as an individual and all mounts for that character share the same equipment).
The interaction between this mount equipment and the consumables isn’t known. However, now there is an additional “alt tax”. Buy riding, buy faster riding, buy basic flight, buy water walking.
Any other mount equipment is going to be hard pressed to be better than water walking. This changing is coming because “too many people use water striders”? I’m inclined to react by only using a water strider in ground mount situations rather than using a random favorite if there isn’t water nearby.
People are asking for the strider to have a passive water walk and not be affected by equipment. They’re not asking for it to have multiple abilities.
What bites me about this is that we used to be able to use stirrups and barding and hoofplates all at the same time. Now it looks like we can only pick one. Thats quite a nerf, plus it cuts the market for those consumables in thirds. The only way this could possibly be worth it, and only POSSIBLY is if there is an item that allows ground mounts to fly.
I am genuinely curious here. I’m going to copy-paste what I wrote in another topic, because I want to understand your point of view.
Most of the people I’ve seen give criticism don’t seem to understand the following confirmed facts:
- If you have a Waterstrider, you get a FREE water walking equipment on the toon that has the rep.
- If you have a toon at 100, the equipment system is unlocked ACCOUNT-WIDE.
- If you have a Waterstrider, you can buy a heavily discounted account-bound waterwalking equipment, which any alt can use when they unlock mounts at level 20.
I genuinely don’t understand, if people are aware of the above 3 facts, how anyone can be upset at this? You can keep what you earned, you just have a tiny little hoop to jump through first.
How can you not understand people being upset at having to pay for something we already have access to on EVERY character and are losing. We have to pay additional gold to use it on multiple characters. I do not care if it’s discounted. I already earned and paid for that mount for use on ALL my characters.
I can’t wait to see floating boats and Longboi Auction House mounts running across lakes.
It’s so it takes you longer in the water area.
Easy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they nerf the angler raft as well
But I think the people who are complaining are inflating the negatives
Sorry, but it is one of those moments where it feels like the negatives out-shines the positive.
Negative - for Altoholics you’ll have to purchase an item for each alt to Mimic your base waterstrider.
Positive - People who are playing non-DKs are no longer limited to using the waterstrider as their one and only world mount pre-flight if they want to avoid getting stuck in deep water.
People playing alts already provide money to their alts for flight, if they need to buy bags, etc. besides, if it does cost around 1000g, that’s super trivial.
For the rest of us, we have no options for water walking unless we use the waterstrider. All of those other ground mounts are pretty useless bad space without the new feature.
So current system leave an entire group of players without options to fix a system they want changed.
Future system affects the other side of the equation, but at least they have a fairly inexpensive solution.
In even more basic terms:
Current -> Bad for group B, no solutions.
Future -> Bad for group A, solutions.
Tel me again how it will be worse?
There’s more negatives then that
Because like the lighforged rune they could easily break it next expac with our water striders being sht outta luck.
Because it invalidates the rep grind people worked for to unlock a neat ability
Because the system is per character and to use water walking again you have to lock all your mounts to it
Because they’re already making exceptions for other mounts
Because it sets a bad precedent for them removing abilities from mounts and making them a consumable
Because it’s yet another gold sink
I am genuinely curious here. I’m going to copy-paste what I wrote in another topic, because I want to understand your point of view.
Most of the people I’ve seen give criticism don’t seem to understand the following confirmed facts:
- If you have a Waterstrider, you get a FREE water walking equipment on the toon that has the rep.
- If you have a toon at 100, the equipment system is unlocked ACCOUNT-WIDE.
- If you have a Waterstrider, you can buy a heavily discounted account-bound waterwalking equipment, which any alt can use when they unlock mounts at level 20.
I genuinely don’t understand, if people are aware of the above 3 facts, how anyone can be upset at this? You can keep what you earned, you just have a tiny little hoop to jump through first.
There is no actual reason to cry, but people gonna do it anyways.