Don't listen to the anti LFR people. They just want to control who raids

This is an extremely low effort strawman. I’m fairly neutral on the existence of LFR (I wouldn’t get upset if it stayed or left; I don’t do it), but one proponent of LFR leaving is that it would cause a nonzero number of players who are guildless and run lfr to decide to look for a guild to raid more difficult content, and generally players who join a community and have more challenging content to do (relative to themselves) tend to stick around longer.

LFR isn’t what makes blacklisting less viable, LFG is. Anyone can que cross-realm up to heroic difficulty, and later down the line even mythic. If you get booted you can literally just join another group, or make your own!

lol

So your argument is that we need to keep LFR to prevent your realm from becoming a ghost town as evidenced by LFR being in the game while your realm is a ghost town?

ITT: People who do LFR are not toxic. :smile:

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probably why we constantly see these comments in these threads by players who play high end content bragging about how they AFK in LFR while crying about people being able to AFK in LFR.

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I’m well aware. I tried to keep it simple for people like yourself. And I’ll repeat this for the low bars like you since you thought it was a contradictory message: Lfr damages the community. Raiding is additive to the community.

It is simple:
Don’t like LFR? Don’t use it!

People that use LFR just want to run the raid casually, and maybe to get better gear and do higher difficulties.
I don’t understand why people get angry at a feature that changes absolutely nothing in their game if they don’t use it.

It could be considered a problem if LFR was used for normal/heroic/mythic difficulties, but it has it’s own difficulty and it is much lower (in power and rewards) than doing not-LFR.

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Doesnt matter when they said it.
My tax dollars go to keep the roads paved.
Yeah, that was created like 100 years ago and the same exact reasoning applies today. No tax dollars, no paved roads.

I don’t afk in LFR, the only time I do it is to test my weak auras before a progression boss. Once I see they work I leave the group mid pull. That’s what LFR is to me.

obviously my statement was concerning the players who make the comments. Dig up some of the old threads here. In most of them someone pretty much always admits to going into LFR and AFKing for gear drops. That same person will religiously be using the argument that LFR needs to be removed because its too easy to AFK in.
They create the problem then want to punish other players for the problem existing.

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I can’t even begin to grasp the mentality required to cry over other people not being forced to pay $15 a month to earn the right to beg for inclusion in primary game activities.

LFR is fine. Get over it.

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I afk’d warfronts and I advocated for their change or removal. I don’t think all content outside of raids and M+ should be afk-able. If you allow people to afk with little or no consequence while guaranteeing success, people will afk.

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Its a video game.
My hemorrhoids actually matter to me. This game and people being AFK isnt even a blip on my radar.

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It’s normally the heroic+ raiders that cause problems in LFR.

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Ah, the “it’s just a game” arguement. God forbid we actually want some fun, engaging and fulfilling content in our games.

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Source please.

Why do people say this? We all know it’s a game. We’re just giving feedback on how we can improve it.

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WE??..did you mean to say, You??

More like my tax dollars go to keep the roads paved but since they said that they have invented flying cars. Gotta keep them roads sealed though right?

The biggest thing I found audacious about the OP’s claim is that he really thinks every single person arguing against LFR has been or is toxic in the way he describes.

Like, prove it.

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Did someone force you to AFK in LFR or anywhere else?
I didnt think that was an option for others to make you play something in the game you didnt want to partake of. did I miss something?
If you want challenging play, stay out of LFR.
Im failing to see the problem here.

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And here I thought it was all designed around the Azerite gearing system.

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Im sure you had a point in there somewhere.
Ive yet to see a flying car not using the paved roads. Till then my tax dollars are going to keep those roads paved just like they said they would decades ago.