Can’t you still turn that stuff off in the inn ?
And I don’t get why you are so upset by this.
And you can’t really use the word new or newest when you talk about classic.
And you kids get off my lawn!
Hey. Hey you. Shut up. Stop whining. Like what is actually the problem here? As if you and everyone else didn’t already rush to max level. What’s the difference?
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I really wanted to play WOTLK, but after hitting level 71 after 7 hours or so, I stopped.
“jUsT gO pLay rEtaIL” - I want to play wotlk, but the endgame, not having to spend 80 hours getting to content that’s actually somehow interesting.
And not even this Joyous Journey will make me come back, its still 40 hours of pain to get to max lvl. No thank you.
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You can just turn off the buff lmao. I don’t know what to say, omega cringe you typed all the out because you want people to play the game how you want. Max level cringe.
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I would think a guy that’s still level 17 would welcome an experience buff.
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300 posts, good job OP.
The 50% xp increase is a good addition to the game. In fact it should stay in the game all the time. When blizzard removed the buff, it’s a signal they have no intentions of growing their playerbase and can safely rely on their current playerbase in order to fund their game. Which they were right. There are more players playing now compared to classic in 2019.
However. If I was a new player, I would never start without the xp buff. Blizzard bringing this buff now is a genius marketing move for the current playerbase who is currently raid logging and for new players.
IMO this is the biggest W from blizzard for the entirety of classic so far
You missed the part where a huge number of players said that was a stupid idea and missed the part where the only reason they keep doing it is because players on the forums keep praising their decisions.
Yeah I did hate that. It was idiotic. But it was in the original game so they should have it available again.
Your made up majority doesn’t exist. You just think you’re on the majority side. The conversation isn’t even close to ending.
You really shouldn’t be playing RPG’s then. Leveling is not a chore it is literally the most important part of WoW.
It’s already going away by next month and I want it taken away sooner.
Oh yeah bro! Ofc! It should stay in the game always! Heck, why not a 500% xp gain. You know what? We both know leveling SUCKS so much and you shouldn’t be FORCED to do it more than once so… let’s just let people have unlimited free boosts to lvl 80 once you make your first lvl 80. In fact… why stop there? Just get rid of levels completely! And xp! The only point of questing will be to get some gear and rep before you do the dungeons and get all the best gear so you can FINALLY spend as little time playing wow as possible and just do the dungeons and get all the gear and turn off the game until the next patch! Who would want to spend TIME playing WoW?? I don’t!
Whenever I see the “ThIs IsN’t ReTaIl!!!” red herring swinging around I know that a post has no merit. I remember when Wotlk was new the big red herring was “wrath babies”. If you couldn’t argue against the logic of a post, just call them a wrath baby and distract the readers from the actual point of the thread. It’s the same thing now, they just changed the catch phrase.
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You clearly don’t know what a red herring is and you saying “Your post has no merit because you said x” is just your inability to form a coherent argument and dispute a logical statement that you find emotionally triggering.
Saying that classic is not retail is a COMPLETELY valid argument because a HUGE majority of players who wanted classic in the first place quit retail in favor of classic because retail is garbage. We don’t like retail. We hate everything it’s become, we LIKED the old WoW before cataclysm and WoD and BFA before WoW was completely ruined and we want to play the WoW that was actually a good game. The idea that we should keep adding things from retail into classic COMPLETELY goes against the whole reason the majority of classic players joined classic in the first place.
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Its the most important part to you. The game doesnt even start until max level for a lot of us.
It’s the most important part to any RPG. Leveling is an intrinsic feature to the RPG genre. The idea that leveling is a “chore” is antithetical to WoW, an MMORPG, itself. And it’s not the fault of people like you, who naturally will want to maximize efficiency and reduce time to get to their desired goals: to be level 80 with all the best gear… it’s Blizzard’s fault for catering to this desire and constantly allowing the idea to fester, that leveling is nothing but a chore to be done away with as quickly as possible. The whole reason so many players feel leveling is nothing but a chore in the way of getting to max lvl is because Blizzard constantly reducing how long it takes to level and giving players tools to further reduce how long it takes to level.
There are so many more people leveling alts now so it seems this is a great addition. or we can just bring RDF back
Anecdotal - opinion. Define huge.
Opinion.
Do I need to point out the irony here, or do we all see it?
Opinion. You are determining what is important for other people.
Congrats. You read the blue post.
This speaks to your nature a great deal. My recommendation is stop living in the world of whataboutisms. You think slowing down the leveling process will somehow validate time invested for yourself. These people speeding to 80 are watering down the experience for you. What I don’t understand is why you just don’t find a group of like minded people to enjoy the piece of the pie that you do. Who cares if they can blast straight to 80. You want people to play the game the way you want, which is no different than Blizzard taking away agency from the players.
This no change policy is so weird to me. Most people would like to see various changes, such as better balancing this time around, fleshing out raid encounters. People always think is was “this” or “that”, that tipped retail into the direction it is now. What it was were individuals that would devour content faster than Blizzard could release it, or the edgy hipster game reviewers that were always pushing for the next big thing. So many systems of Wrath worked great. We didn’t need homogenized classes. I personally think introducing scrolls/drums to help facilitate buffs for the raid were great. Then all you had to do was balance what utility/damage/healing was done to be viable in any environment. I personally think Blizzard just fell prey not necessarily to the “Casual” playerbase as much as the impatient playerbase. They’ve stayed this course of trying to have something for each and everyone of us, and that’s just not realistic.
The same amount of people that forum posters demand is a “huge” amount of people that wanted JJ back or wanted RDF. You’re just nitpicking in an attempt to sound legalistic and intelligent.
Okay. That’s what the forums are for. I don’t see what your point is. It’s funny how you ran into this thread acting like you’re gonna shut me down and point out all my inconsistencies with your tremendous forum argumentation nitpicking method.
There is zero irony. At all. It’s hilarious you thought this was some sort of “gotcha” moment. Me saying there’s a huge amount of people that agree with me is not me saying I’m in the majority. You literally can’t refute the claim that there is a huge amount of people who wanted classic to not be like retail. But feel free to try. And if you can’t do it then don’t waste your time on this petty line of reasoning.
It’s not an opinion. Leveling is literally a core aspect of the RPG genre. If you don’t like leveling than RPG’s aren’t the game for you. This legalistic lawyer approach you’re trying is pretty hilarious.
You must have thought this sounded a lot smarter than it does.
No I don’t. I think that the leveling system needs to be left alone and doesn’t need to be sped up. Because this is WoW Classic not retail. It’s really that simple, idk why you’re having such trouble figuring this out.
And here’s more completely off-the-mark speculation that you’re trying to push through anyways and work off of.
Because you’re a retail player who probably never played the original expansions, may not even play classic, and have no idea what WoW was when it was actually a good game.
No, some people want that, many people DO NOT want that because we don’t think Vanilla, BC, and Wrath were failed expansions. We think they were GOOD expansions… which is why… WE WANTED TO PLAY THEM AGAIN. Blizzard and Blizzard shills like you being confused as to why people would want the GAME WE WANTED TO PLAY, to be PLAYABLE AGAIN, and not some “we fixed it!” version, just shows how out of touch you and Blizzard are with the rest of the Classic community.
People who can’t be bothered to level at the pace that Wrath originally had and can’t be bothered to deal with playing the game the way Wrath originally was do not belong in classic and I have no idea why they want to play classic at all, because clearly, replaying the original expansions is not their motivation.
You used a claim as evidence. It’s not nitpicking, it’s the truth. The forums are the smallest minority of the people actually playing the game. It’s more likely you simply found the posts that aligned to your thought processes or sided with those that feel the same way. “Huge” “Majority” “a lot”…all buzzwords to give the representation and power of a statistic.
No part of my posting is to shut you down. Does anyone think they’re going to come and post counter points and the other person is going to go “Geee boy he got me, better stay off them there forums”. No.
The irony, sadly I have to say-
You’re both arguing over anecdotal evidence. You feel, therefore, it is.
This is an MMORPG - Vanilla took me 8 days played to hit 60. I then proceeded to play for another 32 days. TBC took me 4 days played. I then played another 27 days. WotLK my current mage main has 39 days total time played - 20 days have been at level 80. Leveling is the means to get to where you spend the vast majority of your time. Leveling is meant to be experienced and then is just the gateway to learn your future alt classes. The leveling experience is a core aspect to encourage it’s participants to continue past that. If that experience is not providing that to the majority of people then it’s failing. I’m not saying it is or it is not but it’s probably a bit petty to judge people what “aspect” of the game they find most enjoyable.
The rest of your post isn’t even worth responding to honestly. You’re short sighted and angry. You use aggressive name calling and passive insinuation as if I’m an “unintelligent” person to try and make your points. You make assumptions with little to no real investigation to see if what you’re saying holds any weight at all. And then you fall back to “I must be a retail player” because I don’t blindly agree to your opinions on the game. More irony that I’m in a guild that has existed since Vanilla, my achievements very easily show that I’ve played this game a long time, and that I too played at the pinnacle the most during original wrath.
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No I didn’t. Stop trying your legalistic approach to “defeating” my arguments.
That isn’t remotely close to what happened you just like strawmanning internally. Unless you’re going to prove to me how no one who plays classic wanted to replicate the same experience they had in the original expansions then this line of reasoning is worthless and you’re only clinging to it because you’re so used to using it as an argumentation method.
THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR LITTLE THEORY HERE IS THAT IM NOT USING IT FOR EVIDENCE AT ALL FOR ANYTHING IT ISN’T PART OF MY ARGUMENT AND IT DOESNT MATTER YOURE JUST GOING AFTER LOW HANGING FRUIT IN AN ATTEMPT TO APPEAR LIKE YOURE WINNING THE ARGUMENT - caps lock so maybe itll get through to your head this time.
8 days played is 192 hours. That is a lot of time. Assuming you played 4 hours every single day then it would have taken you almost 2 months to get from lvl 1-60.
More huge amounts of time for playing a video game.
This is a completely false premise and that is the whole point. Leveling is not an obstacle and Blizzard making it easier and shorter is not what any player who actually cares about the long term future of Classic should want.
Because you lack the logical foundation to attempt to refute it. You do nothing except try to cultivate this personality of cool, technical, logical, legalistic argument winner when all you do is go for low-hanging fruit and strawman internally.
I didn’t insult anyone.
Yeah and here’s more of you working off your initial false assumption that I’ve already refuted but you ofc, ignore that, so you can continue to argue under false pretenses because otherwise you have absolutely nothing to say.
“And if you can’t stand to level without an XP boost maybe you should consider playing retail instead”
Lol, some of us have grueling, full time, 12-14 hour jobs and havent got time, even on the weekends to keep up with you basement dwelling, no life having players.
The boost helps those like us who really want multiple characters, but genuinely havent got the ample time to be able to keep up like some players.
If you dislike it that much, then i suggest you cry a bit harder, because thats all you can do at this point sadly.
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Okay, so maybe WoW isn’t the game for you. If playing it is such a pain for you, and you don’t have the time to actually play the game, and yet still want to have lvl 80s and do end-game content, then you should consider playing something else, or just be satisfied with the pace that you have. I’m a college student, meaning that many weeks go by without playing wow at all because I’m too busy catching up with homework. And I’ve worked consistent 16 hour shifts in jobs in the past, that doesn’t make me want to decide that the game should be made more casual and that leveling should be shorter and require less time played. I was just satisfied with what I did with the little time that I had