That’s an interesting idea. It feels a bit like trying to force people to have fun though. Bad design acting as a bandaid on top of bad design…
I do like the idea of where you’re going, but I suppose it still isn’t clear to me precisely what the problem is (or problems) are. I suppose that the point that some others are making is that AFKing isn’t the problem but rather a symptom of a problem. So what is that problem?
Are people who quit for being suspended for cheating really the type of people who contribute to a healthy community?
Yep. And I think blowouts like this should definitely be rewarded additionally…such as denying the marks for the other side. Maybe even giving the winner a 4th mark when that happens.
I don’t think it’s a singular problem. Laziness is one issue. People have gotten better over the past several expansions at finding the path of least resistance.
A system that allows it to some extent is another problem. I’ve seen tons of good and bad ideas over the years from the forums. Seems like Blizzard could sit down and have a brainstorm for a week or two with their top minds and come up with a fix.
Maybe not. Maybe they have and just can’t fix it. Maybe they don’t care. I dunno.
If you want to fix a large problem in battlegrounds, make it less likely for full premades to match up against full pugs.
There is no challenge in organized vs unorganized.
Many games with matchmaking systems simply will not match your premade group with pug group, you will sit in queue and wait for a team of equal size to queue, or similar size.
That will fix a lot of the issues.
Let random BGs be random, and organized be organized.
do alot of people even know they’re cheating? there’s bg groups all day that will tell you that you can’t get banned from it i spoke to people individually after knowing what the punishment can be and other people stopped doing it. It’s part of blizzards fault not even telling people that it’s bannable premade groups in classic previously rolled over when they saw it was another premade in classic because it wasn’t worth the time - honor ratio but no one got banned. It’s been a thing all of classic to a certain degree but blizzard never did anything to anyone for this so how would players even know they could get banned?
Opportunistic behavior will always exist no matter what. But the punishments are sound and valid.
The structure would be better served to changed. Get rid of marks, allow honor to be earned via Arena. Not a total solution but at least there are less people in bg’s who don’t want to be there to begin with.
Yes, they do. i personally know two people who got suspensions for 8 days and this was 3 months ago.
Your opinion of this isn’t really relevant. I already know this happens. I also warned people on these forums last week to stop. Anyone who wants to keep doing it can but don’t cry when you get suspended too.
I’ve given my opinion this many times to where it’s like a broken record but I will say a few things #1 it doesn’t matter if people AFKed in the past, it’s always been against the spirit of gameplay. it’s the equivalent of botting etc and other types of cheating and #2 I played so many BGs in Classic that I saw firsthand what the suspensions did. they made BGs better. When someone has to explain to their guild that their account is suspended and they can’t make the raid on Tuesday they stop. it is hands down, the best way of handling the AFK problem IMO. That’s not to say changes shouldn’t be made, but that stick is there for a reason.
As for the topic, it is clear why the OP is fighting to have this not be actionable (this won’t happen, by the way, the multiboxers outcried and they pay for multiple subs and that still is getting suspensions. AFK suspensions are already happening. There is no debate.) for two reasons. First of all, he liked going against these groups and getting easy honor/marks (reading between the lines), and secondly, he is afraid of the horde queues getting to 30+ minutes (directly stated in a reply).
It applies in this situation as this is the primary driving force behind the actions.
It’s not actually optimal to get 0 honor per game and a slow mark as the opposition choose to slowroll their opponents instead of win when they realize what they are up against.
The entire action of AFKing premades is the message being sent. Nothing more.
Actually having vastly superior racials in one of the most faction tilted expansions are how you increase horde waiting times to over an hour. I hope it gets worse for them too.
I want them to make arenas faction divided too, but can’t always get what you want.
False narrative spreads like wildfire, and this is a prime example of another…
Nobody is getting banned. Stop lying, stop trying to bully people. The only activism I see here is people posting bullcrap on reddit about suspensions that happened a LONG time ago during R14 grinds, and even those details are SKETCHY at best.
Just stop lying, until blizzard announces something, let it go.
I wonder how many of the people here complaining about people intentionally losing games are the same people who stop spawning after I sapper them at BS. I feel like I should start reporting anyone who finishes with fewer than 5 deaths.