Does nobody want classes to be better?

I want classic vanilla with minimal changes. And look, it just so happens SoM has all the minimal changes I want! So I’m quite happy :slight_smile:
how about YOU go play retail or TBC classic and stop trying to bring in awful ideas into SoM? Thanks.

Thanks for telling us how we should play the game that we actually play. It’s good to have an outsiders view who has no idea how it actually does!

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you keep saying this, but I played vanilla wow 15 years ago and know how it works, probably better than you.

I played 15 years too, I also played classic, which you did not.

Oh yeah you’re so knowledgeable about the game, like how you said losing world buffs would affect warriors at the top of the dps meta lol. Such a smart knowledgeable “player” you are.

And when you just learned about warriors duel wield tanking. Something that you would know if you followed classic to any slight degree, which leads me to believe that it wasn’t time restraints but just purely the fact you weren’t interested. And now you’re trying to come in and make calls on how a game you never wanted to play until now is run.

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TBC launch was horrible, and everyone on my server is raid logging and all content under raids is dead content.

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That’s completely Is fine however what I’m saying is by default before we even start every single class should be fun to play if you don’t want to raid that’s completely up to you.

What I’m saying is with the changes that they’ve been doing now they’ve just killed any hope of any hybrid being able to raid if you’re a paladin you’re healing, If you’re a Druid you’re only there for mark the wild why because of the higher healthpool and the higher mechanics.

All it means is that the pure classes are going to be doing just that shadow priests 2 nope Hunters may be a little bit better but quite frankly I think that Warriors and now even warlocks are just going to outscale them.

It’s on top of roads that’s why I’m saying wrath classes you know why Is one balance was overall at its best during wrath and no I don’t count pvp Is PVP balances another animal all on its own let’s be honest.

However If they give us wrath classes all the tanks are viable There’s no longer a meme speck that’s what we should be carrying about on top of that.

Everyone says like well it’s a solved game we want that feeling of unknown back again well doesn’t this do that.

Is think about it even during breath of the ledge king we had the reliance of 71 talent point not 60.

So we don’t know what the matter would be with that right we know all the problems are fixed yes however.

We don’t know overall how things are turned going to turn out playing and simple Is that’s why I’m saying they should give us Ralph classes with 60 talent.

yeah, and it’s ridiculous. so glad i missed vanilla classic and get to play a real game with no WB raiding.

Warriors will still duel wield tank so maybe find a new game to play.

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i doubt it

Oh no no you’re quite wrong I can tell you even without world buffs Is on my Warrior itanked.

Zg and aq20 Is as arms fury And I can tell you 90% of the time I was using 21 handlers there was literally no point to use a shield very rarely what I.

Now naxx aq40 Is when you’re 1st going through there yeah sure maybe but once you start getting pieces you’re going to be going back the duel wilding.

Again this is why I say give us wath classes

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ok well those are the easiest raids

He also said once geared naxx is the same but you just ignored that part?

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ok well those are the easiest raids
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One I like how you ignored the last part of the thing i said too Regardless whether the easiest raids or not I just told you I maintained rais maintained raids in a DPS speck.

And for the record I also often in Mc and in BWL But my point remains In fact it’s gonna be even worse now because you can use your rend to help you keep agro.

Now naxx Sure you might have someone going full prot before they start gain geared up Is but to pay on how much gear that they have is going to depend on that.

But over all It’s going to be very proud most likely I mean Let’s put this in contacts if I as A DPS Warrior Is could maintain raid bosses whether they be in 20 minutes or not.

What makes you think you couldn’t get away with fury All the way through naxx.

You clearly know absolutely nothing about the subject. If you knew why warriors were able to duel wield tank, you would understand it’s going to take a lot more then just giving bosses more health and hitting a little harder to get tanks to actually use a shield. You’ve said multiple times you never even played classic, so I don’t understand where you think you get this entitlement to talk at people like you even know anything at all about the topic? Just sayin.

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nobody ever dual wield tanked 15 years ago. it’s insanity, and i highly doubt SoM will allow such nonsense for most raid bosses.

Ohey, I also played WoW 15 years ago, and you know what the original developers said?

That if they could turn back time they would make hybrid class like druids scale and function better so they were performing as they were intended to be.

And yes, I am all for changes even for Era if these new changes make hybrids like druid as they were originally intended.

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Yup You’re certainly correct and again That’s why they finally were able to fix classes completely and wrath.

And I know I sound like I’m being a Dead Horse at the point but I’m gonna keep being an intelligent understood.

There’s a lot of good Things about classic The classes are not one of them I feel bad for any protection Paladin Is boomkin or rusto Is along with the other broken specs in the game.

The answer is very simple And that’s why I keep pushing it

Here we see a low iq wow boomer in its natural habitat

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Yes they did. Go take your meds boomer, and stop being so bitter. It’s not our fault you are genuinely clueless about what you are attempting to talk about. Maybe instead of just hating on something you should educate yourself on why it even works the way it does. Nah instead you are going with the classic boomer narcissistic attitude towards things you don’t understand.

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all I know is I never saw dual wield tanking when I played 15 years ago, and my guild cleared through naxx. it’s a stupid concept, and frankly they should buff raid bosses enough so that it is impossible. dual wielding is for damage, not tanking.