Does nobody want classes to be better?

Balance is often the death of fun. One of the biggest lessons learned from Retail.

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Yeah iā€™m not after full blown balance and i dont think anyone else is, just enough like TBC that allows people to play other specs outside of fury warrior and rogue/mage to dps.

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Thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying. Make talent choices more viable. Oh no, a class is going to be more powerful in pvp! Who cares? Pvp is a chaotic mess anyway.

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Thatā€™s kind of why I like it lol.

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Yup, itā€™s so much fun. Itā€™s moreā€¦warlike. Real battles are just chaos.

Let me put it like this: Iā€™ve been playing a lot of Warmane lately, and Wrath pvp is just not enjoyable at all. This is what happens when they balance everything around smallscale arena matches. Mass homogenization means every class has a slow, stuns everywhere, silences everywhere, etc. You pretty much are never in control of your character.

Classic pvp is a million times better. Sure, you can get blown up just as fast. But so whatā€¦itā€™s just simpler design. And at this point in my life simple appeals to me.

I agree, retail pvp isnt as fun, the last time I had fun in pvp was at the end of BfA and that was so minimal compared to the amount of Bg and WPvP fun i had in classic

yeah just destroy pvp so i can raid in my meme spec, bro :roll_eyes:

Absolute power play. Respect.

You donā€™t PvP anyway, you donā€™t even play the game haha. If you did you would understand that PvP is not balanced in any way and thatā€™s part of the charm of classic. Buffing the memes might make some classes overpowered but thereā€™s already super OP specs and classes anyway. So another of your points that makes no sense because you donā€™t actually know how classic plays because you didnt play it.

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I donā€™t want a bunch of overpowered meme specs in PvP, thanks.

But you donā€™t PvP or pve so how would you know what effect this will have on the game? There is already massively over powered and underpowered specs in BGā€™s, if you actually played the game you would know that.

thatā€™s not license to just mess it up further, sorry.
some of us want to play something that resembles the WoW of 15 years ago. I donā€™t want to see 10+ boomkins in BGs because thatā€™s the new meta.

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And whatā€™s the difference if X class was overpowered and now Y class is? Again, I donā€™t really know why Iā€™m arguing with you seeing as you didnā€™t play the game, and will probably quit after a month if you decide to play fresh anyway.

What you want shouldnā€™t really be an issue, you didnā€™t play first time around and youā€™ll likely not play again, so maybe keep your ideas to yourself and let actual classic players put in their 2 cents rather than just trolling on the forums.

I didnā€™t play vanilla classic due to time constraints. Not sure why you keep bringing that up. It adds nothing to your ā€˜argumentā€™.

So whatā€™s changed? If youā€™re so busy you wonā€™t be able to play SoM either. So keep your lack of knowledge about the game to yourself.

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Youā€™re not really adding anything either your entire argument is ā€œI dont want thisā€ because ā€œmuh classicā€ in your own argument ā€œDonā€™t like it? Go back to classicā€

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Listen, I was as #nochanges as anyone and wish Blizz had been even more authentic with Classic (especially TBC, where the changes ruined the game). Butā€¦those Classic eternal servers still exist. If you want the closest to authentic experience as possible, you can always play there.

I donā€™t see a problem with Blizz now making some changes to a fresh server type. Of course those changes should be consistent with the philosophies and design intent of Vanilla and so farā€¦they arenā€™t. Specifically speeding up the journey and rushing out the content. That is opposite approach Blizz should have taken. But still, making certain talent choices more viable (or at least playable) isnā€™t necessarily a bad thing.

I donā€™t see it happening though since it seems quite obvious Activision isnā€™t interested in putting any kind of real development time or resources into Classic. Maybe some more cash shop stuff though, because milking the playerbase never goes out of style. But actually trying to ā€˜improveā€™ the experience? Not worth their time.

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that sounds like a lie. lol Every ret paladin Iā€™ve ever met went above and beyond as raid member since they knew they were being carried even if they did 700 dps with world buffs. (since a warrior in that slot would have done 1200dsp)

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Iā€™m going to allow it.

-A Druid

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now Iā€™m not as busy, obviously. my job is different now, so yes, Iā€™m looking forward to SoM. thanks for your concern.