Does Horde have a distinct advantage in AV?

Ally take IBGY and horde take shgy.

Ally rez at SPGY which is 2 MINUTES AWAY from IBGY and only 10 rez at a time.

Horde send 20 to attack IBGY, it takes 5 MINUTES for it to turn into an alliance graveyard.

Horde rez in their cave 25 SECONDS AWAY from IBGY when trying to retake it.

If those 15-20 horde kill 5-10 people every rez wave those alliance are all being sent 2 MINUTES AWAY.

The horde dying are being sent 25 SECONDS AWAY and rez up to 20 AT A TIME.

This scenario is true for EVERY GRAVEYARD below SHGY.

The alliance have no strategy to counter this, it was called ā€œscorched earthā€ in era when they had a 95% win rate.

This is insane youā€™re debating this with me.

Look at an AV map, horde get to and out reinforce every objective from SHGY AND SOUTH before ally will get there and they can do it with up to TWICE as many players.

The horde cav rez beats alliance to RHGY, FWGY, IBGY and SHGY and SFGY.

You arenā€™t going to hold ANYTHING as alliance when you soft cap it if horde send 15-20 to retake it simply because you donā€™t out reinforce them on ANY OBJECTIVE besides SPGY and Aid Station.

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Weā€™ve had this conversation many times before on this forum, if the horde ever decide its better to use the scorched earth strat, alliance pretty much auto lose, as it stands currently, horde queue times are short enough where the factions are mostly just allowing eachother to do whatever they want because it works better for both sideā€™s hph

Iā€™m so sick of this conversation to, so tired of trying to debate this with people who have 0 clue how AV works.

They argue against it because it destroys the illusion of superiority.

Welcome to 1.12 AV.

Yes if both teams full Zerg end boss and are fully allergic to PVP then Horde has an advantage.

But thing is there are so many different ways to win that I can say truthfully neither side has a real advantage; it just depends on who has the better team overall.

More cluelessness.

Lmfao

Perhaps its you who are just stuck in your understanding of AV. I mean read your own responses. Youā€™re the only one going ā€œno AV is only exactly like this one way and everyone else is wrongā€

I mean you have others saying hwat im saying so idk.

Look at the map, its so damn obvious who can out reinforce literally every objective at SHGY and below rofl.

yall say the same things, the bridge and the archers, all of that is meaningless, you dont win when youre trapped up north.

Why do YOU think these things are all resolved in TBC?

Why do you think horde eat literally the biggest nerfs to AV and not alliance?

I cant help you anymore than what im doing, youre dismissing everything and just think youre right.

Nobody is asking for your help. Youā€™re the one complaining about alliance losing I guess?

Its pretty equal atm like Peepo said above.

Its still basically a race meta.

ā€œScorched earthā€ isnt being used by horde yet.

Its like talking to a wall who almost understands you.

Dude you argue with people every single day, posting essays about nonsense at all hours of the day. How meaningless is your life right now ?

Drinknblink or whoever you are, since you are afraid to post on your main because for the past 5 years you havent achieved anything on your main except 20,000forum posts

You need to relax bro. Youre gonna be the next Glinda.

People talk as if itā€™s some crazy optimal team that knows the ins and outs of everything and can capitalize on everything.

It isnā€™t.

The vast majority of players in these games are average, and with that the alliance have a CLEAR advantage.

Just look at both their bases. Horde base is a pathetic joke compared to alliance base. ā€œBut you can do this and this.ā€ No, you canā€™t, because youā€™re playing with mediocre players who arenā€™t going to do that or donā€™t know that.

The alliance have the advantage in these games.

If itā€™s 2 stacked optimized teams that are all communicating with each other, then sure, maybe the horde have the advantage, but that isnā€™t what is happening in 99% of these games.

Horde have an advantage in AV

good one.

They do, they are just too horrible to figure it out

Horde should reach Belinda faster than Ally reach Drek. Belinda is in the middle of the map and is reached about the same time that Ally reach Galv.

No, they donā€™t, the closer spawn does not save time when horde has to clear aid station mobs.

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Exactly.

While horde is dealing with 53 elite mobs the alliance are already pulling the boss because they deal with 0.

People need to look at this as mediocre team vs mediocre team because that is the reality. It is not fully optimized team on comms VS fully optimized team on comms. That is not reality.

With that in mind, alliance have a clear advantage.

The first 2 days AV launched when everyone got exalted. Iā€™ve seen alli wins in under 5 min. How?

Because they stroll into the horde base without any friction whatsoever, take everything and kill the boss before horde even gets across the bridge.

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Yep, see alli win when weā€™re barely caping aid station. Horde does have an advantage in wsg tho, better flag jumps.