Does Holly Longdale know about Guild Bank wipes?

Agreed. It was an accident. It is done. The stuff is gone, and there is no record of it. They have a mega thread to complain in, but somehow thought this was new and interesting discussion.

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No kidding, haha.

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Problem is, if you accept player claims to restore items that blizzard can’t internally prove that they should have, it WILL be abused.

Maybe not by you, but enough people will do it that they’d just randomly add billions of gold, and enough TCG mounts into the game that it would probably crash the price.

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So is the entitled whining over pixels you don’t even own.

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:rofl:

they have a very low bar for that nowadays so doesnt mean much. all it says is money more important than customers.

Welcome to the new Blizzard. Everything changed when their GMs got pulled for canned responses.

are you somehow surprised? welcome to corpo 101.

This is the truth. I dont see any reason getting so worked up over some pixels that went missing. Its a video game, not that big of a deal.

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Wonder how many of the people going “It’s just pixels” would feel about everything digital they own being gone (Bank included)

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I can totally picture Holly in a striped black and white prison jumpsuit with a robber mask on and a red bag held with both hands over the back.

Holly is the World of Warcraft gaming president or such along product lines. When you want to hold someone financially responsible, you’d want to go to the president, ceo and cfo of the ABK Blizzard company or Microsoft. Generally legal redress by the company isn’t going to fit within program lines like warcraft. No, she probably doesn’t crack the whip on the database admins.

Sympathies to you if you lost your items, but you will be better off legally against Blizzard/MS as a company. If there’s any redress to be had and I’m no lawyer.

If we are talking about in game, where I don’t actually OWN anything, and Blizz has the right to do as they please? Not an issue. However if it is something that actually matters, like copies of games I have paid money for, or the cash in my actual brick and mortar bank where I pay my bills and support my actual life? I’ll have a talk with a manager somewhere. But losing some mount I never bothered to use from Vanilla will not affect my business, my mortgage, or anything that actually matters.

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None of us even have a legal leg to stand on over some pixels:

Blizzard End User License Agreement - Legal – Blizzard Entertainment

Blizzard’s Ownership

  1. With the sole exception of the Licensors’ Games, Blizzard is the owner or licensee of all right, title, and interest in and to the Platform, including the Games that are produced and developed by Blizzard (“Blizzard Games”), Custom Games derived from a Blizzard Game, Accounts, and all of the features and components thereof. The Platform may contain materials licensed by third-parties to Blizzard, and these third-parties may enforce their ownership rights against you in the event that you violate this Agreement. The following components of the Platform (which do not include content or components of the Licensors’ Games), are owned or licensed by Blizzard:
  2. All virtual content appearing within the Platform, including the Blizzard Games, such as:
  3. Visual Components: Locations, artwork, structural or landscape designs, animations, and audio-visual effects;
  4. Narrations: Themes, concepts, stories, and storylines;
  5. Characters: The names, likenesses, inventories, and catch phrases of Game characters;
  6. Items: Virtual goods, such as digital cards, currency, potions, weapons, armor, wearable items, skins, sprays, pets, mounts, etc.;
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Technically the same IRL, especially land/housing and all that, water included.

What like WoW? Which has a base cost, PLUS subscription? Or other games which are constantly getting pulled or people no longer have access to?

The reminder is, if something truly doesn’t matter then you’d be fine with deleting it. To show that you could do something like delete your character to prove your point, but the general fact is most people will not. They’d likely be upset if the company did so to their characters or items, which to me is fair. You can try to talk about ‘legal standing’ but legal doesn’t equal right, and the right to not be upset about something.

There is a song that would fit this perfectly.

“They don’t give a heck”

Someone in bliz HQ can be heard stating "Good now they can refill all that stuff for 15 dollars a month MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Then he snapped a pencil. Who even carries a pencil nowadays? drafters, yea I got it.

The desperation to compare stuff in a game bank to actual RL things that matter just blows my mind :rofl: You people are off the DEEP end with this stuff.

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Should people that work on games get paid in pixels too, since it’s just pixels? Like…

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kick em while their down

The people working on the game are providing a real life service. A digital product. Not some imaginary shirt inside that game.

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