Agreed, and I have chosen not to invest my time in “Fresh” because of this silence.
I don’t. It’s not because I dislike the expansions though. It’s because what they’ll offer is the same changes they made in the first round. I would be right there with you guys if they’d re-run them as they were originally though.
TBC Was largely #nochanges but yeah they bungled wrath pretty badly by adding H+ and they’re apparently sticking to that i guess at least they realized affixes suck… at least if RDF was there from launch it would be somewhat better.
I could not agree more!
I am just trying to be optimistic we will get permanent bc era and permanent wrath era servers this time around.
They stated these servers are going to at least TBC. And with Dual Spec alone says there will not be clones to Era. So if you are playing thinking you can move to Era you are 100% wasting your time.
Plenty of changes to Season of Mastery were wiped when those characters migrated to Era. Your reasoning here isn’t right.
I’m telling you how it will be. Bookmark this and comeback when TBC launches and tell me I’m right.
I would be highly surprised if they allow any movement off of anniversary realms.
You may be right that there’s no Era clone, but like I said, it won’t be because of dual spec. There’s no point in bookmarking anything. Nobody ever knows reason behind Blizz decisions, particularly when it comes to Era.
What is with all the pearl clutching in this community? EQ set the pace for what time-locked progression servers look like. It starts in classic, and rolls out future expansions in a similar or somewhat accelerated timeline as the original game releases.
The idea of locked “era” servers that are static, that have no hope for additional content, makes zero sense to me. Who would play on these servers other than a minuscule portion of the player base, and for only limited periods of time? You’re looking at a few years before the servers are closed down because nobody plays them.
Having windows of time where a new progression server comes out is what makes the most sense. “Oh a new prog server is coming out, now’s your chance to go experience classic content again!” And then it goes to TBC after a year, and then Wrath after another year, and then onwards from there. All progressed with the same set of toons if you like. But no off-ramp or on-ramp to or from era servers. Those shouldn’t even exist from a game development and design perspective. The entire purpose and intent behind MMORPGs is that your character exists in a dynamic, developing world and that things will change. New challenges, new levels, new zones, new skills.
I’m 100% convinced that this entire community (1) wouldn’t make good on a commitment to play era servers in a way that is profitable for Blizzard and aligned to their vision of how this game progresses, and (2) will never actually be satisfied with anything Blizzard does or delivers for you because you’re in perpetual grievance mode.
Blizzard already said that the Anniversary servers are progressing to TBC at least. I would bet money that era characters will not magically be able to dip in for a transfer once TBC approaches. Part of that is the fault of the “no changes” crowd, and the fact that the Anniversary servers are already different from era in some ways.
My hope is that the Anniversary servers continue progression beyond TBC, otherwise what is the point of all this? So my character that I’m investing into is going to be frozen in time in 2006, and will literally be able to reach a point where I say, “OK, got all the available loot, leveled all characters, maxed all rep. I literally beat the game into the ground and there is nothing coming down the pike to stop me from getting bored and leaving the game.”
Hasn’t your nostalgia itch been scratched yet? What is it that compels you to demand static era servers?
This is the most shortsighted nonsense I have ever read , you are absolutely wrong on every level , classic era was quite popular before the fresh servers and the only reason many people play classic era and or fresh and so on is because they get to KEEP THEIR CHARACTERS AND PROGRESS , if it just cycles on and on and you just lose everything because you don’t want to play cata it’s pointless , wow classic is not designed for this short sighted short term expansion cycling , the game just takes too long to level in and gear in , it’s about building these characters on a long journey and being able to revisit them later in the expansion that you prefer , I love being able to go back to my classic era characters after taking a break from the game and picking up where I left off with all their levels and gear , I don’t have time to endlessly level and gear new characters every year it’s insane , I want to PRESERVE MY CHARACTERS AND PROGRESS , I have said it before and I will say it again , if they did not create classic era servers I would have unsubbed permanently years ago
The servers should progress but we absolutely need era servers for each of the original trilogy otherwise people will just get burnt out and quit since they will keep having their progress reset and won’t be able to revisit the characters they spent hundreds of hours on , you don’t have to play era , no one is making you , but many people do and to many people it’s the only reason they stay subbed
I’m not really sure what you’re arguing here.
The point is that your character from Classic will be able to progress through expansion and content releases on a slightly accelerated timeline to retail. Who is saying you need to reroll toons every year? A new prog server shouldn’t be released every year. Maybe they can be staggered in terms of their place in the release timeline, but otherwise the character you create will persist and go through expansions as they were released — as though you created a character in 2004 and keep playing it through all expansions, until it eventually catches up to retail and is merged.
The more of these one-off ruleset servers that are released and parsed out to feed .5% of the population, the more confusing it is for new or returning players. The idea of someone getting WoW, creating a toon on some rando TBC Classic Era server, and playing for a while only to realize, “Wait, so this server isn’t growing or doing anything other than just sitting here at one point in time forever? What on Earth?”
I don’t know if you all realize how silly of a proposition this is. There are other hosted options out there if you want to visit a pet-project museum. Expecting a game developer to happily calcify their franchise and fragment its player base is just … a weird expectation to feel entitled to.
It’s not silly at all , I like classic wow and many other people do too , I want to play on classic and keep my characters on classic era servers forever , whenever I play fresh classic I want to be able to keep those characters in classic too , I don’t like cataclysm of mists of pandaria or anything else , this is not hard to understand , do you have things you like ? I also like Dark Souls 1 , I want to be able to revisit my character on Dark Souls 1 whenever I want , I don’t want to boot up the game one day and be in Dark Souls 2 , haven’t you ever wanted to rewatch a movie you’ve seen before or listen to a song more than once or eat the same meal again ? People like what they like , you don’t want to play on classic era and that’s ok but I do and many other people do too , like it or not the original trilogy is the golden age of wow and what many people prefer , you don’t seem to like it so maybe play cataclysm classic or whatever you want and post on a different forum
Let’s put it another way , I don’t know what games you like but let’s say it’s Pokémon , just because you prefer the newest Pokémon game that they’ll add DLC content too doesn’t mean I should not be able to play pokemon Emerald that I prefer from years and years ago , will they add content to it ? No , and that’s perfectly ok , coming back to wow , if there are no permanent clsssic era servers to play on then I unsub forever , that’s money not going to blizzard anymore , many people only sub for wow classic era so yes it is making them money , and what is really amazing for blizzard about classic era is it’s already done ! They’re making money from something that they never have to worry about updating ! Just keep the servers open and that community will stay subbed
I agree, because if they did they may drop 70% of the players to Era servers if transfers were open. You need in a way hostages to populate TBC (even tho I love TBC)
The one thing I keep wondering though is wouldn’t they like to make money from the cloning service again ? It’s just free money …
we had a several thousand post thread but they dodged constantly.
It seems like you’re not aware of the Classic Era history.
Yes it did happen before and the vast majority of players decided to go to TBC. The Era realms ended up dead to the point they had to be merged.