If that playstyle is what’s the most fun for them, they can use it at any level.
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Yea, game used to be simple. Would have died long ago if it hadn’t grown with the times.
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Classic is that way for all your slow 1 mob at a time pulling. I think it’s boring.
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if you weren’t a hunter, rogue, mage…good luck getting in groups
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Yes, and they tried to bring this back in Cata. Players raged due to the difficulty and time it took to complete the dungeons.
I actually participated in PvE dungeon content back then. I loved the literal “Dungeon Crawl”.
I skipped WoD and Legion for the most part and when I came back in BFA I made some runs at M+ and decided it wasn’t for me.
Mythic Plus is great for people that like speed runs but for everyone else M+ essentially removed Dungeons from WoW. The reality is if the mode of play doesn’t have a path to max level gear its not endgame content…This makes the answer “just run Heroics” not really a solution to endgame dungeon content alternatives but more of a “Get lost” response.
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I remember having a lot of jobs to do on my Hunter, trapping, double trapping, misdirecting, kiting, dying a lot, pet abilities, sometimes I’d even throw a wing clip in there if I was feeling froggy. Pretty hectic.
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Dungeons in WoW today are just as important as they were back then.
Which largely means not very important once you max level and do any end game content.
Before m+, dungeons were not end game content alternatives.
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You can still have that game play. Its called classic WOW and its available to play .
I do not want classic game play back.
No they were precursors to Raid…and I participated at that time. I also participated in raid back then. So in that regard unless I am very rare rather than average MPlus has failed as endgame content.
So unimportant if you do any endgame content. You can treat heroics that way currently
Nope. Have to make it some weird generational issue so that it’s easy to blame all our problems on an overgeneralized group. Anything else would be far too nuanced.
Yes. Just like today.
You can do dungeons today, then move to raiding.
And like those dungeons before, they became absolutely useless and were not a form of end game progression. They were something you did to get ready for end game progression.
Agreed. Sometimes I really enjoy a slow steady strategy type play and sometimes I just want to pump crazy big numbers across a dozen mobs at the same time.
The topic is do you remember not defend MPlus. I understand you are defending MPlus on multiple fronts but what I am trying to say is not any deeper than… I do remember, I did prefer it and I do not participate in Mythic plus.
If you want an informed debate on Mythic Plus I’m here to tell you I’m not that person… Because I stopped running MPlus in BFA… Go fight with the other guy, he seems to still run MPlus.
Ok. Let me try.
I remember dungeons being useless as a form of progression before. Horribly designed, creating its own meta worse than today. And only there to push you into raiding before never having any value again.
Awesome…That’s the great thing about being human…we have different experiences and can share them with each other. Mission accomplished.
Yes. I remember dungeons objectively not being end game content, regardless of what others feel they remember.
nods
Haha… Man you are dedicated I’ll give you that. good luck out there.
I am dedicated to remembering how things actually were.
Dungeon content was a stepping stone to raid content. As you pointed out.