as a firm believer in the existence of a god i think there must be life out there. why would there be this whole universe full of nothing?
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âAre we alone in the universe?â she asked.
âYes,â said the Oracle.
âSo thereâs no other life out there?â
âThere is. Theyâre alone too.â
(Itâs from A Small Fiction on Twitter.)
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And again, we can agree to disagree.
We started looking at most 200 years ago. Our signals have travelled less than 0.1% the distance of our galaxy. There are trillions of planets in out galaxy alone. We honestly know nothing.
It could take thousands of years to even detect anything let alone have any contact.
This entire thing is just some fun theory at this point.
(Btw I love this thread and everyone discussing)
Absolutely, my scintillating sunflower.
I await It with rapt bliss, ready to experience all new sensations of ecstasy.
/tentacleflip
There is life, but if the ocean on our planet is any indication of how creepy things can get without light, etc.
Count me out on space creatures being any less ugly.
I hope so because âthereâs bugger all down here on Earthâ
actually a couple of our satellites have left our galaxy so we are offically out there and broadcasting where we are in the universe. they just need to follow the path it came from if it doesnt get destroyed lol.
Itâs still not far at all in the grand scheme of things within our 100kLy sized galaxy.
It could be millenia before it gets detected, if it gets detected.
I do ( I think we are naive to think otherwise). I do not however think they have visited earth and abducted people.
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Well its suppose to be able the send out signals for another 100 or so years so maybe. Even then if its picked up it has a map of our system on it and some cultural items a star traveling civ would be able to find us once they find the solar system.
There is always a possibility for anything no matter how unlikely.
And while I do think itâs highly unlikely, Iâd honestly love to know that something did pick it up.
If they did they would be the âteenagersâ of that civ lets be real no advanced race is taking bubba in the corn fields on a ship as a specimen.
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Rampant speculation, wholesale. A proper ecosystem maintains itself while changing slowly over time. Greed is a basic tenet of humanity, but not of life and survival.
That many humans are greedy and took more than we needed is not proof of anything; there are a lot of indigenous cultures who do not do that and live more or less harmoniously with the land.
Youâve also made an absolutely massive leap there. The moment humanity moves to another star weâll be âinterstellar.â Itâs entirely possible that weâd still be tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of years away from meaningfully extracting energy from a whole galaxy. Donât confuse being able to travel between stars, as a basic skill, with being able to do everything above that too.
We can only base our speculations on humans. Despite how wide and varied we are we all fit into some generalized psychological profiles relatively easily. These all make sense to us because weâre us, and we canât really see how another system would work.
If we met another species, intelligent, who could travel the galaxy but opted not to because it was inefficient, weâd be baffled. Why not just solve the inefficiency, weâd ask. Perhaps they didnât care enough to do so, they might say. We might wonder why they didnât strip mine their planet dead within the first few thousand years of their society. They might be deeply curious why weâd ever try and kill our home.
You canât apply human logic and psychology to aliens and flaunt it as fact. You can speculate, which is just about the limit of what any of us can do (much like my speculation that they may be completely foreign in their mindset and behaviors), but it doesnât make it fact. You canât use humans as the litmus test for sentient life; you only have one isolated example.
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Well if they do they will find a gold plated map or our system a recording of greeting in different languages pictures videos of earth lot of this is who we are via 1977.
Donât forget the classical music!! Lol
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You are thinking here in terms of classic human technology which is typically explosive and expansive. Think of the propulsion engines in our cars and the big booms and controlled releases we use to send rockets into space. Also guns, missiles and so much more.
Now what if I told you there are, for the most part, unexplored avenues of implosive and contractive based technology? Think folding space, drawing a location to you instead of flying to it, etc. All thru material manipulation that would not require mass amounts of energy but rather specific frequencies and elements arranged just so.
Our biggest shortcoming as humans is the trap of thinking that everyone is doing things the same way we are. Or that that another life sustaining planet has the same available elemental makeup as ours.
You might be interested in looking into the story of Bob Lazar and element 115, or unpentium.
Thereâs also the argument that if we are in a matrix then no there isnât anything out there as this is one big super computer
When it doubt, I start with the hypothesis thatâs easiest to disprove. Finding one unambiguous microbe would be enough to prove it exists. No amount of not finding life would ever prove it wasnât hiding under the next rock. So, by default, I start by believing it doesnât exist.
Now that weâve been to Dreanor and Argus, Iâve had to change my mind.
The concept of space travel is an interesting one. Especially as we learn more about genetics, microbiology and the symbiosis humans have with all the good bacteria and certain energies in our environment like the sun and ionized air particles.
Sadly the star trek model would not work. They might sufficiently replicate sunlight and a certain air quality but our ships would have to be home to an entire self sustaining, earth based ecosystem in order to protect us from foreign pathogens and ensure the survival of certain bacteria (we have pounds and pounds of this stuff inside of us by the way) that regulates important systems in our body. Not impossible of course but the entire sterile, zippy ships flying thru space we have imagined up are just not viable. At least for us.