While I think companies are careful not to out right lie too often I consider every thing publicly released by a company as carefully worded propaganda and spin. It’s not devoid of information but should be considered with that always in mind. Perhaps you’re less cynical that I.
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It’s really funny that so many people feign sympathy for the Blizzard employees and their living situation in California, and at the same time pretty much claim they’re constantly lying to us and they can’t be trusted.
These are human beings. These are posts from the CS forum, from people employed to help customers. Their job is to help people, not to lie to them.
Yeah, that’s obvious.
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There was no way for them to know that Classic was going to be as successful as it was. All signs pointed to this. Their reluctance and PR snafu’s in regard to bringing it back showed that they thought it was a complete dead end and not worth their time.
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It’s a complex world that many people find difficult to comprehend. The most common solution some people embrace when faced with an inability to deal with that complexity is to discard nuance and rely on black/white thinking for it’s seeming simplicity.
What’s not funny is I’ve never expressed sympathy for Blizzard employees either feigned or otherwise nor have I commented on their living situation in Cali. So why are you addressing that to me? If you have some personal grudge with said people you should take it up with them, not me. Or are you just having a reading comprehension problem? I suspect that’s more likely the case.
Irrefutable argument. From the guy who never learned punctuation.
bro 1v1 me or start saying things that matter
I think when it did succeed as well as it did the big money boys did a lot of yelling because there was a lot of money being left on the table that could have been in their pockets just like any corporation.
Blizzard has been caught red handed bsing their customer base a whole bunch of times over the years are you kidding me? Its a multinational multibillion dollar corporation - why would you trust them?
Its called public relations, not your heres the gods honest truth my dear friend.
Edit: Inccorect poster quoted.
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Define “care”. Blizzard COULD have a “wow classic reforged”. But there was a #Nochanges movement through out its hype, as well as streamers saying the same thing. But as those people were playing the closed beta, they did start to ask for changes. But the underlining issue, imo, is player mind set of then vs now. I will keep repeating this, no one KNEW the resources where this valuable back then. And since Pservers continued doing there thing, as well as doing there own changes to “best fit” the game, people forgot what was in the game and wasn’t, or was changed all together.
But this also comes down to players exploiting content to there advantage. This is why newer content is “better” compared to older content imo. Once you know everything, you will be playing the game vastly different from not knowing or trying to learn.
But do I think classic was “successful”? Short term, yes, long term no.
This. /Thread.
Its like saying McDonald’s wants the McRib to fail and get upset when it sells out.
The groanworthy thing now is that with the “leaked info” to streamers, they are willing to walk down the same tone deaf snafu road once again. Tne TBC servers will be mishandled, populations and faction ratios will be horrid, the choice of game version will be the highest pre-wrath watered down one, and bots will continue to fly around and underground.
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Not unless you have a xanatos gambit going on.
Yeah I can extrapolate the data from my classic experience over onto TBC because nuttinz gonna change. People will find out they really didnt want TBC to play as much as they wanted to poop all over it and the whining will be just as frenzied and hyperbolic as its been for classic or retail at any point in its history.
Not too mention dead once Wrath becomes the next big thing.
That’s the funny thing. Once wrath happens, what do all of the TBC fans think will happen to it? Vanilla classic will always have a following. TBC? Not so much, and it is a fraction of the content vanilla has.
But hey, content locusts gonna content locust.
It is what it is. I cant worry myself about it. Im just hoping there’s a good home for my 60s on a server somewhere post TBC and there’s some cool people on it.
Why did you ever think classic was going to have perfect retention?
What gave you the impression I thought that? The bulk of current classic players are likely retailers just looking for content to consume, and were not the bulk of those who begged for a decade or more for classic/vanilla to be a thing.
I never once thought classic would have "perfect retention, but hey, you do you, zyrius. I know how you like your blue dot dopamine rush. Nothing would make me happier (related to WoW) than for the tourists to move on to the newest shiny object, and leave vanilla classic to those who actually find value in it.
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Very few people are going to consume the same content indefinitely. Especially without server resets. That has nothing to do with retail, or more accurately the exact same thing happened during vanilla.
What level of autonomy do you figure Blizzard exercises? I think it’s probably a far cry from independent.
I never suggested they would consume it indefinitely without server resets. You really are looking for a strawman to poke at, aren’t you?