Sometimes I dont notice right away its a twink specially if im healing , but when I see them not holding aggro and getting the party wiped and click on them and see the little 11 there, they usually get kicked
I havenât seen the level 11s struggle to hold aggro whatsoever. Its just a quick whirlwind of death to the final boss.
Anyway. I wouldnât want that experience every single time, but yeah I absolutely love seeing them every so often to speed up the 5-dungeon quest progress.
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When I see a level 11 Warrior in my TW dungeons I breathe a sigh of relief because I know Iâll be out of there in a few seconds.
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I like the level 11 twinks in TW. Last night got lucky with a level 11 fury warrior. 5 TWs down in less than 20 minutes. Works for me.
I mean this goes both ways though. Again I donât particularly care how others want to play, but the whole âlevel 11 fury warrior twink tankâ genuinely makes the entire experience become âTwink gets to play the game and no one else in the dungeon gets toâ. This was never a problem really before under the old scaling system even with people making TW gear sets to blast through it.
Thatâs my whole issue. Iâm being forced more often than not to have this happen to me in these dungeons and the solution shouldnât be âlol just eat a 30 min leaver queueâ just because Iâd like to press my buttons in the dungeon too. The ACTUAL solution should make it to where level 10 twinks dont basically 1 tap every single mob they touch.
Youâre not describing a twink.
Being level 11 doesnât mean youâre geared yet. Although even an 11 in heirlooms will usually out dps most level 80s except maybe the most geared 80s. When you first turn xp off though youâre not anywhere near as powerful as once youâre geared. Probably less than half the damage youâll eventually do.
My 10 resto druid twink one shots trash mobs with shred and 3 shots or less groups of mobs with swipe. I two shot the last boss in blood furnace once and often 3 shot dungeon bosses if I get crits.
When I tank as a resto druid or a fury warrior, nobody else has aggro unless they pulled something I never touched and if they do I go back and help them. Nobody has ever kicked me in dozens of runs and I usually do 90% of the damage so nobody pulls aggro either.
edit: Oh, and if an 11 warrior doesnât use lifesteal on their heirlooms before replacing them with lifesteal blues that do more than twice as much DPS once they get them, they will also be doing a lot less damage since lifesteal procs are half your damage regardless of your other gear.
Riiiight. It does go both ways as that was the point of my previous comment. Nobodies forcing you to do anything. You literally have alternative options. An analogy for arguments sake.
Letâs say I Que with you and youâre terrible, Iâm not saying you are btw, nobodies forcing me to keep wiping with you. I can either choose to continue on with you until we clear it and reque with a new group afterwards or I can choose to leave and eat the debuff and wait it out. You could also choose to vote kick but I donât do all that. Pretty sure you can also group up beforehand. Itâs literally the exact same thing in essence and different play styles are a byproduct of playing a mp game lol 
I am not sure if you have ever have been in a group with a twink, there is not a twink in my horde of them, that can not continually take aggro away from tanks when I que as a healer, and good luck getting it back. When I que as Tank, good luck taking aggro off me.
Once again, you say say you get people kicked, but once again, I seriously doubt you do. What I do believe is that you have an ego issue and canât handle a lowbie destroying instances.
You would think after so many people have âspokenâ against you, that you would at minimum realize you are in a very small group pf people that agree with you. Please however keep spewing the b*****it you keep spewing in this thread and every other one like it. I do enjoy laughing at the few of you that happen to show up in every thread like this whining.
Twinking has been a thing forever, and will continue to be one, you seem to forget that people like you have whined for 20 years and guess what twinking is still here and has never gone awayâŠ
For level 11-79, no. But why should my numbers for damage be lower than a lvl 11 when ive busted my a** for high level raid gear?
Your numbers are not lower, your damage meters are showing you how you would see it, but twink meters are showing much lower numbers.
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I donât like other people ruining the game for myself so when I do play one of my characters that is level locked for maximum damage LOL I seriously cut back on my DPS output so I donât ruin the game for anybody else
The only time I will ramp up the DPS in a group as if I realize we are about to die and itâs just to keep from having a wipe
So my answer is yes, just like in remix where one player or two players were literally obliterating everything in sight and ruined the fun for the rest of us well some of the rest of us, I donât think that itâs appropriate to get into group content where people might be trying to enjoy the game and the one-shotting everything so that they canât interact with anything.
Yes. Put them in their own queue. Parity between PvP and PvE.
im surprised they havent banned the word twink yet
I love twinks, theyâre fast and quick and put a smile on my face.
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Separate queues I donât think makes sense since some people like them. I would say just add an option that says âavoid xpoff playersâ that you can toggle on when on a sub max-level character. People without this option on will be queued into the first available group with or without them. People with it on may wait slightly longer to form a full group with no xpoff players.
Maybe expand that to lower level BG queues as well instead of just separating them entirely. Low level BG brackets often donât have enough players for either xp on or xp off.
after 94 comments, I can sum this upâŠ
some people want g-d mode for leveling like remix, or twinks running the person in dungeons
the others, how do I say this⊠want to slow down, savor life, and smell the pixels
These 2 groups will never meet eye to eye
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yep, the natural conclusion of every thread like this ever made. lol
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I donât have an issue with people wanting to twink, but I want to do more than just hold down W in a dungeon.
Makes it very boring. Yes I like to do keys and raid, but when I level an alt, I like to actually play it and learn it from the ground up, not just W my way to 80.
May as well buy boosts if thatâs the case, or just have Blizzard remove leveling and just start at max level with starter gear.
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Tbh they tend be to rare enough that itâs not an issue.
They annoyed me briefly many years ago when they would stomp me into the mud in WSG or AB. I got over it.
These dudes that can make a quick leveling run even faster? I donât mind them at all.