Personally I find the Soul to be a goofy looking car. I mean, I believe it exists, but I don’t have any confidence in it’s reliability and safety.
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Conservatives would hate him, however.
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Which is why scholars of actual Biblical Hebrew have pointed out just how many poor translations there are in King James, right?
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It doesn’t appear to be built with tall people in mind.
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Just wanted to note this was (sort of ironically, depending on your belief system) post 666! 
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I love that! I didn’t even notice.
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I don’t know why I suddenly thought of that and looked back! lol I thought it was perfect!
If this is the matrix, I don’t want to wake up.
I walked into my house with the smell of chicken breasts, broth, onions, carrots, and celery in the crock pot.
Hello Fall!
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WooHoo!!! Love it! Sending hubby to grocery store.
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Haha!
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So a little background history first. Everybody in the Bible, they were living happily in the land that God gave them, Israel, for a long time. Under king David it was the golden age period, everything was great and the kingdom was at its highest point.
So this is why for the Jews, King David is the messianic figure they were kind of expecting eventually to return, because God had made a promise to David that his throne would last forever. And everybody pretty much loved him.
This is around the year 1000 BC. But each king after David, basically started to become more and more evil. They just had no regard for God whatsoever, they were leading people into evil practices like worshipping false Gods. Even the kings and government officials had become corrupt, murdering innocent people, people weren’t upholding the truth and dealing fairly on a day to day basis. Eventually the whole nation just plunged into idolatry but its interesting to note it started with the leadership.
God is patient but eventually he had enough, even though you had a couple kings that tried to turn people back to God, the king after that would just be evil again.
So God sends the Babylonians to conquer Israel. And these were scary people. They devised all sorts of ways to torture people and instill fear, so people were rightfully afraid of them. A good portion of Israel gets taken to Babylon and now they are captive there, including Daniel.
Not longer after, King Cyrus of Persia conquers Babylon, and there ends up being this sort of shift in power. So the Jews are still living there, now they are under Persian rule.
So now to the prophecy part. Daniel one day wakes up and gets this vision, this prophecy from the LORD
while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. He instructed me and said to me, “Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. As soon as you began to pray, a word went out, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the word and understand the vision: “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place. “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. - Dan 9:21-26
The word here ‘seven’ is like a variable. It means a period of seven. But seven what?
In this case, seven years.
So if you calculate it out, seven ‘sevens’ would basically mean 7 x ‘a period of seven years’ which equates to 49 years.
Sixty-two ‘sevens’ reads as 62 x ‘a period of seven years’ which equals 434 years.
Add both of those together, you get 483 years.
Now notice what the prophecy says:
From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem
If you do a little bit of digging around, you’ll find most scholars, even secular scholars will agree this was the year 457 BC. It is a very well documented fact.
Okay so know, get your calculator out. 457 BC is entered as -457. And you are adding 483 years. But you have to subtract 1 because there is no year 0 so this is not normal integer math.
The year you arrive at is 27 AD, the likely year that Jesus was baptized and began his ministry, aka when he blew up on the world scene and went viral.
And exactly what it said in the prophecy came true
After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.
This was all written in the time of Daniel, around 500 years before Christ
Now the Jews missed it. They missed his first coming. Because in their mind they had a picture of King David. They were expecting this sort of big burly guy to come on the scene and snap his fingers and free them from the Romans who were currently conquering them.
But it wasn’t time for that yet. Jesus came as the humble lamb of God, and yet He was the ‘root and the offspring of David’
God is good and declares the beginning from the end
When Jesus comes next, He is coming as the roaring lion, to save his bride and destroy His enemies.
Stay tuned!
You do realize the bible was written and edited over several hundred years, changed according to the times and traditions? And that it has been proven that the finished version basically comes down to 3 authors?
And that being said, you cannot cherry pick places to suit your agenda?
Going back to OP’s topic. Stardust
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Excuse me sir, this is a Wendy’s drive thru.
Holy mother of Elune why is there some bible debate in GD again? It’s a day early.
My initial reaction to reading the post above yours was awe over all the mental gymnastics required to make an offhand verse fit into some weird prophetic narrative.
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I am saying this with gentleness, and kindness, but as a little thought exercise… if God authored the bible, then why are there mistakes and contradictions in it? For example, it says that God is love, love is not jealous, and that God is a jealous God… but not all of these three things can be true.
Also, if it’s a love letter to humanity, why did he ordain so much pain and suffering? Why did innocent animals and children die in the flood? Why did he order jews to take women and female children as their slaves after murdering all the people in a town they felt was on land they were entitled to? Are not those women and children part of humanity too? Is not slavery morally appalling whether or not you are a “chosen race” ? Is not the concept of a chosen race appalling?
I think there are some beautiful things to be found in all types of spirituality, like in Christianity, the emphasis on forgiveness or loving thy neighbour, but there are some very violent, very troubling things in the bible and we do a disservice to ourselves perhaps when we try to gloss it over or sweep it under the rug.
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No. Mind does not exist without body. The idea that a disembodied soul could go to heaven/hell is pure fictional fantasy imagined by men with zero understanding of brain physiology. Souls were popularized by Socrates/Plato 400 BC. They admitted they could be wrong. They had zero knowledge of brain physiology, only imagination.
Scientific facts: Our consciousness, our soul, our memory is only the result of electrochemical reactions in human brain neurons/synapses. At death, the heart stops delivering oxygen to brain cells, all cells die and later decay. The energy, basic heat, dissipates to the environment. The End. We only live on in the memories of family and friends.
It’s more of a philosophical discussion that didn’t degenerate into chaos and name calling.
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Yep, and I’m leaving it there. I refuse to be part of hijacking this thread for personal prosrtizlation. That sucks with a pit in the gut. Taking it too far after such a wonderful thread.
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