Grima may disagree with your assessment. 
That toss down the stairs had to hurt.
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I miss Tirion nowā¦
That was his fault. Shouldnāt have asked for āone final blessingā at the top of ICC. Wording is everything, and the Light takes everything literally. But yeah, I miss that guy too.
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Too soonā¦too soon. I was bummed when he went. He was my connection to Wrath and many nostalgic memories. But all things must come to pass.
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Yeah, it was a great moment for shock value, but I got pretty depressed when I had to do the quest to rescue him, only to find that he was too far gone and watched him die.
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Same. I started Legion on Fair as a Belf Paladin. (I started Fair as a human boy paladin in May 2009, but bounced around). Even then, I always thought Tirion and Liadrin were the best embodiments of what a paladin was. Glad we still have Liadrin, though I miss not having her in the story - and obviously miss having Tirion. I liked Tirion because to me, he was never alliance, like Bolvar or Uther was. He was his own - above the noise of the factions. In the lore he stood up for an Orc, Eitrigg, whom he felt was just and honorable, and he was chastised and exiled for it. Then he came back in Wrath and was an absolute narrative monster, and I loved it.
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Dks try to rez him as a dk
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the actor that plays Grima though, Brad Dourif, is one of my all time favorites. Saw him in Deadwood. Impossibly good
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lol no i give up. Trying to help people believe is not the same like winning an argument or debate. Iāll just get made fun of and told that im wrong because of āhuman example and complaintā
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lol, how OP was flagged for asking if we have soulsā¦
The soul is consciousness. Why does anyone hope for something more than what they have? Itās because the soul exists and will never be destroyed.
Death, here, in the physical is not the end. It is a beginning, or the return, to the spirit.
You and I were first spirits! A soul that travels the Universe. Though many only believe in the physical, three-dimensional universe, there are higher, spiritual dimensions that exist.
The next time you dream, pay attention to how time & space are less relevant. You ARE in your soul, in higher dimensions, in your dreams. That is what the life after this physical life is like.
To just claim that you have no soul is a lack of understanding.
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I believe we have a soul and I believe in a higher power.
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lol my little niece whoās now 8 . But when she was around five and one of her brothers explained the concept of the tooth fairy to her and how sheāll get money for her teeth.
Well she was discovered within a few days of that conversation trying to rip her own teeth out (she had two that were loose but I guess she wanted to speed it up)ā¦ she was confronted by my brother (her dad) she needed money for a book she wanted . A book ., not a game a toy or candy a book.
I love this girl to death sheās my buddy. Lol . Oh she got the book without any teeth required.
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I used to believe there was nothing, but my grandma had a near death experience and I started looking into those. Apparently there are people who saw the room in which they were being revived even though they were clinically dead with no brain activity, down to describing the people who were in the room. And it gets even stranger, like people who are thoroughly in the throws of dementia having a āmoment of clarityā in which they speak and act fine . . . right before death.
Thereās a lot of interesting testimony on the subject. Iāve tried having faith and Iām not as good at it as some (though I am trying), but this evidence, even if anecdotal, heartens me.
I mean on a bad day I donāt even want to last any longer than my body. On a good day though, I like the concept of an afterlife. I think as long as you arenāt the worst kind of person then death will very likely be at worst a release from pain etc.
I am also open to the idea that our afterlives are merely āhallucinatedā or I would say āexperiencedā by our brain in the moments leading up to death. I know from direct experience that psychedelics can put you in a near timeless state, and the brainās own psychedelic is DMT, probably the most potent of all of them.
Some food for thought. I am not at all interested in telling any one else what to believe or not to believe, I just know Iāve had a very weird life and not everything in it was so explainable by scientific materialism, at least not to my liking.
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the OP did open the doorā¦ just sayināā¦
Only man could be so arrogant as to believe that death doesnāt apply to them.
~Some old guy
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coming from someone who has done numerous amounts of LSDee and DMT in heavy amounts, nothing equates to the real feeling of power and life change from being a born again christian. All that other stuff is just you being high, nothing else
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For me Iām so glad that God gave the world so many paths to finding him(her, it, something bigger than myself.) After reading so much of this thread I found myself nodding or wishing some would not proselytize. I was also surprised at the amount of respect shown to each other. What a beautiful thing.
Mine is a journey as so many have elucidated well. There is a blend of science, faith, and love expressed that Iām not sure many know theyāve expressed. Iām much the same in so many ways. Unexplained experiences fighting with my logical brain for so long. Raised Catholic, which did not include some of the bad experiences people raised in the Word seem to have experienced, it was a blanket of peace.
As I got older things changed, my eyes opened, my dad died and on that day so did my faith. Curiously I couldnāt let go of how and why man believes or doesnāt. I majored in comparative mythology and religious studies. Part of me is very shamanistic and always will be. Itās funny, after all the religions I studied I didnāt go back and study Catholicism. I finally did and was very surprised at what I missed about the Church. In the last few years Iāve gone back to my roots and there they will stay. Those reasons are personal, but due my unending fascination with science and quantum physics I doubt Iāll ever be sure of what happens at the end.
That I have a soul that is not made up because itās what I want - oh, heavens, how can I ever know for sure. The only things I can go by are my man made experiences. Are some coincidence or the real deal? I believe some are, and Iām learning faith is process, and I donāt have to give up other beliefs and interests in order to win somethingās inherently unknowableās approval.
Some part of me moves on, but it is not me, the ego any longer that does.
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Beautifully said.
I was also raised Catholic, and as a result Iām no longer interested in any formalised Religion.
But I do believe in our Spirit; we are a Spirit, and we have a body in this life.
I believe that love and kindness are the truly important things, and that if the Bible were true, God would have been Vegan, because his ideal, first World, the Garden of Eden, was a Vegan one.
We all come from the same place. I donāt presume to know where or what that place is, but our journey here is to experienceā¦ something.
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Iāve been put under three times for surgery. Best sleep Iāve ever had. Itās amazing how rested you feel after. They literally just shut off your brainā¦I guess we are robots after all.
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Please count down from 100.
100,99ā¦ Oh, weāre done?
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