That’s one way of putting it that could be interpreted in multiple ways. If you enjoy grinding to get rewards from grinding, you do you. If what you enjoy is thinking you can read other people’s minds, or enforcing your own chosen playstyle on them simply because it’s how you want to play, others can quite reasonably disagree with you.
If my personal goal is to have a pair of mages at 60 next week, and paying someone for boosting helps me meet my goal, then I have achieved my goal and have a right to feel satisfied that now I can play those 2 mages in whatever content I wish.
This is why people design and build their own cars, right?
It is not a requirement to run dungeons. Not every character is going to raid. Just because they are out in the world leveling and ask to buy a carry doesn’t mean they owe it to anyone to fill their groups, or to create groups for your alts to level in.
When I played classic, I thought I was going to do a lot of dungeons. I did spam a lot of wc, but soon I got tired of tanking for people who would complain I wasn’t LOSing the mobs, when in fact every time I did they rushed the mobs instead of letting them follow me. I ended up solo leveling and only occasionally doing dungeons on request by people on my friends list.
I was simply giving a possible answer to this question. As players, we’re all free to play this game how we want. But please, don’t act like it doesn’t impact the way that other players get to enjoy the game. In an MMO, other players are part of the content. If the meta evolves away from doing something that you enjoy doing, that will affect your enjoyment of the game.
Well, yeah. That’s something that I enjoy and would like to do more of. I am not very happy with how the meta of the game has evolved. But, if you check my post history, I’ve never advocated for changing anything.
This is a complete strawman argument. I literally never said this. That’s you flawed interpretation of what I said. You clearly somehow missed the part where I said we’re all free to play this game how we want. Would I personally like more people to run dungeons while leveling? Sure. Do I want to see the game be changed to force them to do that? No.
As a mage, boosting / solo farming dungeons is one of the most rewarding things to do in the game. The fact that mages can run a service to boost players is an fantastic case of emergent gameplay. That wouldn’t be even possible in the retail version of the game or even worth doing…and is exactly why people love classic wow. There aren’t all of the defined gameplay systems that determine how people should play the game. There aren’t any daily quests or weekly chests that people log on to grind. People have to come up with things to do and boosting happens to be one of the awesome things to come out of it.
The people boosting probably aren’t the people that want to run low level dungeons anyways…who cares if you’re annoyed by people posting in chat looking for boosts. They’re more likely to be people with several level 60s that don’t want to go through the same questing routes again and have the gold to buy runs.
boosting is a byproduct of paid transfers. the pool of fresh levelers is low because people hop from realm to realm on their mains rather than rerolling and starting from scratch
As someone who has boosted and been boosted, it is a player behavior that negatively impacts other players trying to form groups. AFK’ing in a dungeon while a level 60 does all the work is a creative player economy that detracts from the social pillar of Classic wow.
I played on several large pop realms in Vanilla and boosting was never as rampant or publicized as it is today. XP should be significantly reduced when the max player level is +10 levels above the group average.
I was never a fan of being boosted. I’d take an occasional run from a friend or guildie to get a mess of quests done in a particular dungeon, or maybe a few free runs here or there. But once I was done with that, I got back to questing. To be honest, questing and running dungeons with level-appropriate groups are the best way to learn your class. Sure, most raid rotations are 1 or 2 buttons… but most of those other abilities come into play when you’re relying on yourself to stay alive. It’s also a hell of a lot more fun!
Not really. With any regular amount of leveling progression and doing SOME normal dungeon spam you should have more than enough quests to get to 60 and then some. The only time you run out of quests to do is if you literally only do dungeons once for quest purposes.
Depends on the class. Im pretty sure most mages feel complete well before 40 considering they need like 3 abilities to level up.
Because of boosting. When classic first game out and for MANY MANY months after finding groups was relatively easy (minus the tank shortage)
With the exception of a few dungeons i dont think any are a huge pain to get to once you get the appropriate flight paths. Trivial to complete can be boiled down to any content in the game before level cap in any version of the game. I wouldnt say thats exclusive to classic.
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While im not completely against it i can see the OPs point about it if you actually wanted to run a dungeon like a normal human being instead of paying someone to do it for you while you watch netflix, its basically not a choice anymore because there arent enough people looking for dungeons while leveling.
They already exist but illogically. I think boosting could be curbed by tightening up on the minimum level requirements for dungeons. If you look at most of them they dont make sense considering the level you can ENTER the dungeon you cant even do anything to the mobs. Even if you could triple the amount of people you brought into lets say scarlet monestary at level 20 (the minimum) and tried to complete SM Library the mobs would demolish you.
I dont think this is as common as people make it seem but regardless.
The problem is boosting effects everyone. Even if you dont participate.
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My thoughts exactly.
Because people who want to actually PLAY dungeons cant? or have to spend insane amounts of time looking for people who do.
Because technically thats the way the game was designed and intended to be played.
See my first reply
I wouldnt say that id ASSUME thered be more people trying to legit level. Because realistically these players would just not play. But thered probably be some people who would revert because they really wanna level that alt and will do it either way.
I agree that mages got massively favored in terms of farming but i dont think it was really intended or thought of when they released the game
This is what i call the iDrone mentality. Someone brings up why they dont like iPhones or Apple products because of legit reasons and the person with an iPhone says “this guy must be broke”
I wish there was something they could do about it.
The prevalence of the run economy essentially eliminates non-60 dungeoning, which is a huge appeal of the game to me. Bums me out. I can hardly get a non-paid group together on a locked server.
I never got a char to 60, so I can’t even buy my way up. So what’s left, quest/grind it out? What’s the point of playing an MMO if all I can do is single player quest?
The 2020 audience for wow classic has just turned the game into nothing but an ugly grind. Get to cap, get every world buff, get these BIS’s FAST FAST FAST… then what? Wave your digital junk around because you conquered grind mountain? Feel good because you can score a few more hps looking like a crossdresser in a pride parade than the pally wearing proper lawbringer?
The prob isn’t the game, it’s the community. It’s a damn shame we can’t enjoy the journey anymore without min/maxing all the fun away.
Even if boosts were never a thing, you still would have trouble finding parties. Even back in vanilla it would often take 1hr+ to build a group, especially for lower content. People expect it to be like the first few months, where there was a huge wave of players doing low content…well…all those players are 60 now, and many of their second or third alts are 60 now, you missed the wave. This is what the appeal of FRESH servers was.
Being afk in dungeons while someone plays the game for you must be so fun for so many people. Might as well bot at that point. I’m sure its fun to setup!
There are websites out there for people like you.
If you want to “buy” a level 60, again there are websites for you. Blizzard put a restraint on you fools because it was getting out of hand.
powerleveling is in every mmo - some people got friends and no time, some people got gold and no time, some people got time and no gold and no friends — they lvl the slowest…
I dont know why you’re so concerned with how other people level and “enjoy” the game. There are plenty of like-minded folks that share your opinions and don’t care about the meta and just enjoy classic.
you can certainly enjoy your journey, you’re just too concerned with others’ journies.
honestly i dont know why they wouldnt do the exp nerf thing. They nerfed mob tag exp which as far as i remember existed through the entirety of classic where you can deal 1 damage to a mob then have someone out of group kill it and gain full exp.