Do Horde get any Warcrates? Im guessing no

Oceanic realms are still based on on the whole on NA region. Horde are outnumbered heavily on oceanic realms, but we still have a 10% buff only, no incentive for others to turn it on.

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This is really becoming a bummer. I just leveled my Orc Shaman and Horde get zero crates. I show up ready to fight but itā€™s always like 20v2. We have zero shot. I guess itā€™s time to level the Dark Iron Sham instead. Thereā€™s no way the war mode pop is balanced, or Blizz sharding is terribly balanced.

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already got the ach for 5 soloing
could be a skill issue

What server are you on? Maybe it has to do with the sharding. Iā€™m not sure 10v1 or 2 every time is a skill issue.

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As someone on a RP server and always 100% in warmode. The only time I ever see horde is on reset day and in whatever zone has the sparks quest that week. Iā€™ve managed 3 Horde Slayer titles. There are a fair few horde and not every crate has 10+ ally. I just donā€™t think they believe they can get the crate ever so they just donā€™t try.

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I spent most of DF in warmode on a RP server. Most of the Horde I saw there were sus ā€˜ball farmersā€™ and druid ā€˜gatherersā€™. Iā€™m putting quotes around those cause most of those disappeared over time (and reports) to be replaced by other sus ā€˜ball farmersā€™ and ā€˜gatherersā€™.

I spend most of my time in non war mode now because war mode on RP is mostly all alliance (well the fighters are) and itā€™s usually a roflstomp, so whatev. On the non-warmode side, I currently see a number of Horde ā€˜gatherersā€™ (and lots of regular players too). Not as obvious, but Iā€™m putting quotes around 'em cause they sus as hell.

I have not figured out, yet, why most of the bots are Horde. Like by a HUGE majority. Itā€™s a strange trend which continues and has for the expansions I have been watching and hunting.

Anyway, it is what it is until things change and then it ainā€™t.

Edit: I brought up the bots because if a ton of the Horde are bot farmers in warmode, well, ya ainā€™t gonna get a good fight, cause they ainā€™t there to fight, even if the number of players on ea side look the same. Just something I noticed when I was all war modey.

Edit edit: Having not spent a ton fo time in war mode TWW, I will say the numbers I am seeing are less. SO that is good, weā€™ll see how long that lasts. I think the bot software will catch up soon. Just a guess as I am seeing more sus stuff now than a week or three ago.

Just got around to leveling my Alliance chars (this guy specifically). I can say that Iā€™ve never had an easier time getting crates on Alliance.

On Horde itā€™s practically impossible on my shard (Firetree/Spirestone/ED) etc. PvP populations are very Alliance heavy on these.

All druid herbing bots are Tauren for obvious reasons

What they are doing is looking at how many alliance there are and if it looks outnumbered then they move on.

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I rolled my DH to alliance and yeah, itā€™s basically free conquest every few minutes. my server cluster has about a 2 to 1 imbalance in alliance favor so as horde we only ever get them if itā€™s within the first few seconds of it dropping or else it always goes alliance, itā€™s just a numbers vs time. it doesnā€™t matter how skilled you are if twice as many alliance show up every time.

the caches are essentially an alliance welfare program as they are now.

Hell they dont even look anymore, they just assume alliance is going to get it.

Its frustrating asking for help, knowing that if you just had one more person youd get it, just for them to respond in localdefense or whatever ā€œAlliance always get it, why are you even tryingā€ or something of that nature.

The faction disparity on OCE is absolutely awful when it comes to pvp.
The amount of Alliance on Frostmourne alone is more than horde has combined across all OCE servers, according to wowrealmpopulation .com

The big migration became noticeable back in BfA, and Ally were able to retain the WM bonus + Against Overwhelming Odds weekly, and now with better racials on Ally side too thereā€™s 0 incentive to do anything as Horde, it sucks

They need to remove incentives tbh. You should be in warmode to fight.

If you have to be swayed by some crap to stay or go, just go.

I agree, I miss the old days of pvp servers and people being on there to just fight.

In saying that, the term incentive should perhaps be replaced with reason in this scenario.
Thereā€™s no reason to attempt wpvp as OCE horde as you are almost always drastically outnumbered 10 (or more) to 1.

You can still mess around and have fun for sure, and if thatā€™s all you are interested in itā€™s still fine. But attempt anything like warcrates, trying to steal a worldboss, any form of group wpvp, you get stomped into the dirt by 20 alliance boots and a flag of ownership between your cheeks.

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I always run WM mostly because a ton of fun abilities are locked behind it. Iā€™ve leveled 6 characters to 80 in WM exclusively at this point 5 of them horde. the only times i experienced constant harassment were on the horde characters, given on my server weā€™re outnumbered 2 to 1. by contrast my alliance DH was a cakewalk that got free caches every few minutes. going to level a Drak warrior on alliance next, it just makes sense numbers wise since i can get essentially free conquest gear super quick.

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Horde just need to flag. The Alliance still suck at pvp, they just out number us a little.

A little is an understatement.

You play on an RP server so you donā€™t see the ratio outside of Emerald Dream. Lately Iā€™ve been playing on both and can say RP servers are more ā€œbalancedā€ in the sense of, instead of being outnumbered at a War Supply Crate 60:15 like on regular servers, RP servers are about 25:10. :dracthyr_shrug:

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It was pretty even today so far on Emerald Dream. Horde got 2 of the 3 crates they contested in Hallowfall, and the one that Alliance won was only after a lengthy battle and one of them even got bounty from the fight.

Still has the problem that because the crates drop so fast, they are usually claimed before a fight can even happen and people just fly away since itā€™s too late anyway. Got about 3 or 4 that were simply uncontested for the Alliance, and Horde got one that was uncontested as well since they got to it first.

Itā€™s generally more balanced on RP servers from what Iā€™ve noticed. Iā€™m being sharded in from Wyrmrest Accord, my wife plays that server so she just invites me to a group and I go wild in that RP shard.

Iā€™ve seen Lluagor a few times last week in Azj-Kahet. The crates we fought at were heavy Alliance, some Horde (like 10?) but Weiz was picking up a solid 25-30 Alliance at those crates. Better than the 40-50 Alliance I get on my regular shards though.

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If youā€™re lucky enough to have it drop on you and you cap it really really quick, you can get it before getting mobbed by the 40 alliance players that are on their way