What CC? Chains of Ice and Asphyxiate? In PvP often Asphyxiate will be replaced with a silence. DHs have way more, Monks have more, and etc. If anything DK lacks CCs. But they are good at BREAKING CCs.
I don’t think Unholy is nerfed in damage at the moment anyway. What the class mostly lacked is mobility but the hero talent helps.
On that, I really think between Death Charge with 2 charges and Wraith Walk, DKs went from one of the slowest melee dpsers to really good mobility, especially when used to cover a lot of distance in a short time. Of course not comparable to a Monk but above half of the specs out there.
Why in the blue hell would anyone spec into that? There is literally zero reason to, unless of course your objective is to gimp yourself.
UHDK’s damage is abysmal. Sure, you can pad your numbers in BGs by rolling dots on an entire team, but that isn’t going to secure kills. Their dots were already too weak to properly apply pressure, and their single-target wasn’t exactly in a great place either. They seemed (and still do to some extent) far stronger on paper, just looking at the end screen of a match, than they are in reality.
That double nerf was incomprehensible. Hitting the dots was bad enough, but to gimp death coil while they were at it? And both based purely on cleave padding, not actual killing power.
In any case, UHDK already had very low ladder representation before its nerfs. This dropped to almost nothing after. Even FDK, which is widely known to be hot garbage in organized PvP, is used more often than UHDK at this point.
Not my experience with Solo Shuffle so far. Also the cleave damage is very nice. By the way the cooldowns are short, 1min and 30sec for Raise Abom. is very good. But sure, any buff is welcome.
It’s good for arena, once you can silence the enemy healer even if they are not casting anything. Lasts 4 sec. For arena it’s better than Asphyxiate. For BG it’s not as good.
you could just stun them too.
Stuns have a GCD shared with your allies, and also applies it to your other spells.
i think you mean DR, and so does silence, all CC does. if you are playing with a heavy stun partner against a caster comp silence makes sense, but otherwise given that your general goal is to just shut down the healer the stun works and allows you to take another pvp talent.
and you can also just drop asphyxiate to use its talent point elsewhere like an antimagic spot and then take reanimation to keep turret casters moving instead of silencing them.
That’s not really good for Solo Shuffle, where you can’t trust your allies to CC the healer or something, in Solo Shuffle you can only trust yourself.
This is not as effective, silencing them requires a button, silences them for 4 seconds. Never saw Strangulate lasting less than 4 seconds unless the target has some talent to reduce silence duration on them. WoW is full of CCs today, every class has many stuns, feels good to play DK once it’s probably the class that most has ways of breaking stuns. And we also have the 90% slow from Defile that is basically a root.
Everybody has a stun, silences are rare and ours is off global while lasting longer
They are good they just got nerfed so they aren’t FTM anymore, still very viable, if you want ez mode go frost, if you want a class you will fall in love with and grow with go unholy.
I’m actually having a bit of fun with UH in a casual way, especially because of Clawing Shadows and Death Coil allow me to keep damage when I’m not in melee range.
Now, I’m just trying to figure out the easiest build for PVP, even if not top dps. I do want to learn the hard gameplay, but since I’m kinda new to this class (and PVP as a whole), think is better to start with the easy mode.
I leveled a few DKs. I got mine to 80 using UH. and did it in PvP. You can just make one and do Korracks Revenge on it if you want. Can have lots of PvP to do it there. Level that toon to 80 just by doing PvP and you will learn some stuff. Made my original DK the day Wrath came out.
They weren’t fotm to start with. People overhyped them, and it caused a bunch of fotm rerollers to visit very briefly before realizing UH wasn’t overtuned and jumping ship to the next thing. It had very little ladder representation pre-nerf, and it has next to none now.
It’s really only good for pubstomping now. You can climb with it if you are extremely skilled, but you will have to work like ten times harder than most other classes/specs.
I’m climbing just fine… causally playing only here and there and I’m a few wins away from my The War Within Season 1 PvP Weapon Illusion… I don’t know what y’all are talking about, DK’s pump on both specs.
Gets pumped harder, though, which is kind of the issue.
Meh, clever use of death strikes, and defensive CD’s and you’ll be fine…
I am terrified of warriors
LOL yeah, they are terrifying XD
C’mon don’t you like when that wirlwind is coming for you? lol
its more the MS that’s the problem, whenever i see the RP go down, but the HP not go up, the little “im in danger” meme pops up in my head.