It’s not the bug that was the precedent, it’s the act of them giving it back to the players when they asked for it.
It means that lore is not the most important reason to restrict a cosmetic appearance and it is a previous example of player satisfaction trumping lore.
Void elf holy priest
In before “but void elf priests are all canonically shadow!”
If it’s allowed in for gameplay reasons then there’s no reason a cosmetic appearance can’t be allowed in for player expression.
For God’s sake we can wear a murloc costume and turn into a ghostly pirate, cosmetic paid or quest transmogs can put priests and mages into plate armor, etc. etc.
Because of people throwing a tantrum? Again its not a precedent.
Except it is, an exception does not create a whole new rule lol.
Excuse you, what? =))
I put actual quotes to what I replied to, and unlike you I brought in-game examples to back up my claims.
And when challenged to provide any kind of source for your own claims or statements you failed to do so.
That is a textbook example of contrarian behavior, not in the slightest interested in any kind of discourse, simply wanting to disagree to everything and irredeemably set upon a preconception, in spite of any amount of proof of the contrary, but without being able to supply any proof as to their own claim.
That’s exactly how Flat Earth is being upheld, funnily enough.
The reason behind the action does not change the nature of the action itself.
Players offered feedback, regardless of whether it was civil or not, and Blizzard responded in their favor.
Since you are still going around saying blatant lies. Show where I said that talent background art was mandated to be monochromatic.
Better watch out!
Dark Iron Dwarf Priests/Mages/Warlocks shouldn’t be able to wear plate cosmetics because their classes wear cloth only -lets ignore the cosmetic heritage plate armor they can wear.
But it’s not ACTUALLY plate, it just LOOKS like plate!
Okay, those aren’t really red eyes, they just look red.
Nice… strawman fallacy… what is the next one you are going to pull out? “Im am entitled to my opinion” fallacy?
Lmao just keep ignoring me please.
You are 50% sea lion and 50% gas lighter, in every thread you post in
Well there is technically the element of lore that Light and Shadow can not coexist in the same space, like how Alleria can’t touch Turalyon when in her void form or else they both feel pain, and that’s in written lore.
And discipline priests are more a case of “hold light in one hand and void in the other but for hell’s sake, don’t let them touch”.
But I do concur, especially since giving void elves the “non-void” skin colors, the race itself is also a stand-in for high elves. - Bit similar to how night elves got mages as a class as a means to represent the Highborne among them. - Or how draenei got to be warlocks around the same time the eredar customizations were added and the quest where eredar made contact with Velen for a chance at redemption.
Ultimately, there’s arguments both ways, and I understand why some things are just not likely to happen, but like… the whole point of threads like this is to say “Hey, wouldn’t it be cool if?”
It’s a shame some folks can’t understand that and instead behave in extremely vitriolic fashion towards any ideas not to their personal liking, but rather than admit that, they try to frame their bias as ration and discredit any actual rational arguments.
How did that saying go… you can’t reason someone out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.
I think personally that the line should be drawn at game mechanics and power affecting content.
There are enough examples of cosmetics breaking lore that when you try to use lore as a reason NOT to do something, it seems like a weak argument.
For example, using lore as a reason to restrict a hair color or haircut.
These are things, that in lore, already should be achieved by anyone in the world of Warcraft, regardless of race or gender.
There are interstellar space ships and dimensional portals and shape shifters, you name it. But this world which is more advanced than humans in real life can’t figure out how to dye hair? Or make a wig? Or wear some contacts? Or use makeup?
These ultimately are very small cosmetic things that for lore reasons should exist but don’t, and when contrasted with things that do seemingly break lore mechanically, like cloth wearers using plate transmogs, seem tiny in magnitude.
One could even go so far as to argue that the need for cosmetic makeup and disguise is even more lore appropriate, considering there are so many classes that experience discrimination and are outright feared.
Take for example demon hunters and death knights. People are terrified of them and even threw rotten veggies at us. It makes total lore sense for them to want to hide their appearances from the general public.
We even have lore based examples of races, who have the power to do so, to change their appearances in order to fit in better (dracthyr visage).
So if the ability (mundane cosmetics) to hide your grotesque nature exist, and lore already shows that intent also exists, why not play with it?
Agreed, I think one thing people need to realize is that Lore is not the deciding factor, but rather the means by which a design direction is justified.
Void Elves didn’t pop up because Blizzard realized “Oh, we wrote back then about those elves using void powers… and Alleria was supposed to be voidy so she’d bring them in the Alliance after being Horde for so long.”
No, Blizzard wanted to make a form of alliance blood elf and a form of horde night elf, so they found a way to justify void elves and made Alleria bring them in, then came up with some arguments as to why the Nightborne wouldn’t get along with the Highborne among the night elves and decided they get along better with orcs and trolls and walking corpses.
Lore gets re-written dozens of times over in order to justify stylistic choices, which ultimately hinge solely on what Blizzard wants to do.
Made up a 4th generation of DKs so that pandaren and allied races could be DKs now, despite them not existing back when Arthas did his campaigning. - Wanted Worgen to be allowed to be DKs, so they said “Yeah these aren’t Gilneas DKs, they’re actually northrend worgen that regained their sanity by becoming undead.”
Lore bends to the whim of game designers, not the other way around.
I am greatly disappointed that Dracthyr got arbitrarily locked into blood elf male and human female as their visage options…
Like, folks tend to prefer human males over blood elf males, judging by how much ridicule is made towards blood elf males. - And likewise folks seem to gravitate more towards blood elf females for… Totally incomprehensible reasons. (/s)
It’s not an “everyone” thing, but more-so an “apparently most people” thing. And not necessarily fact, but definitely a very apparent possibility.
They use magic to choose how to appear right? I get why they locked it, it’s labor and development costs, but in lore doesn’t make sense they can’t just choose how to appear.
Yeah, got more beef with the choices made for dracthyr but it’s more of a pet peeve than anything serious. - Not gonna go into more detail though as it’s off-topic to the thread.
Eye color isnt the same as a hair style. Arthas said “Everything that I am I bestow onto you”. He does go into saying hatred and all this other stuff, but we are supposed to be an extension of himself.
So? That doesnt mean that you can just do whatever you want to.
No they arent lol. They have magic, and there are still rules put in place to put you into the world. And why in the world would a world that is at constant war worry about makeup, contacts or hair dye? Thats the last thing that should be on anyones mind is “you know what, I would just love it if my hair was pink instead of blonde while I go into battle”. Thats just insanity…
No, they shouldnt.
Not lore breaking. The armor type is entirely for gameplay reasons.
Its literally not.
modern dayisms. There would definitely be discrimination in a world at war.
And then the King declared what? Said we were going to have an alliance basically.
They literally do not care.
Dragons are not Death Knights, and the dragons did it for a specific reason. It wasnt just to choose how they look, and it was primarily limited to an elf look.
Death Knights and Demon Hunters do not care how they look to others. They arent vain in any sense of the word.
I will correct you on this one. - Got no problem with the rest of the arguments, even if I don’t like the tone, personally.
But on this one I will say, dragons’ visages weren’t primarily limited to elf looks, visages were one of two things. Either literal mortal disguises, for those dragons wanting to infiltrate mortal society such as Krasus (or that one time Alexstrasza turned into a tree); or they were essentially ‘avatars’ the dragons made as more compact representations of themselves. Such as the forms taken by the aspects.
Elves were around for longer than humans, so the more ancient dragons may have picked elves because what else would they even pick? - But they’re also able to change them on the fly. - And more dragons we actually met in-game had human visages rather than elven, when not discussing the aspects.
But outside of those wanting to infiltrate mortal society and not be detected, visages were literally just forms chosen for how the dragons wanted to look in their made up mortal bodies. - Prime example there being green dragons interacting with night elves.
There are no Earthen DKs, how can the lich king raise something that was never alive?
Its the same thing for Lightforged. In these cases its gameplay centered due to racials being a thing. Blizzard will put gameplay before lore where it is necessary.
Its kind of why in other games racials either dont exist, cant be used in combat, or just so bad it becomes a niche / roleplay aspect.