Distance yourself respectfully

You are merely stating your opinion as a fact because you see it as obvious. That isn’t really making an argument. That’s just saying :

“I think it is true so it is true.”

And YOU have nothing but your baseless assumptions.

At least you can say the word “probably,” acknowledging that you truly do not know if your statement is indeed correct, for certain.

Not at all. He was popular, and many folks liked him. Whether he is the most marketable is debatable- especially as we go forward. But he does have many fans.

However, you are greatly overestimating the share of the player base that played specifically for Arthas.

Never once said that. In fact I’d say by now there is probably as many if not more people who know little to nothing about Arthas playing the game now, and that number will continue to rise as more expansions come out. So not sure where ya got this idea I’m threatened by something I literally did not say.

You freaked out earlier when me and Drah mentioned there are people who play WoW, even during Wrath, who simply don’t give a damn about Arthas. :wolf:

I freaked out? Is exaggeration like required to reply to people you disagree with on these forums? Or perhaps its the obvious which is a severe lack of discernment and reading comprehension.

Absolutely I can make that argument, because there’s no evidence backing that claim up. If more than half of the twelve million players during Wrath played because of him, then TBC wouldn’t have reached a peak of 8m when Arthas wasn’t around. Cataclysm wouldn’t have lost only 3m. MoP wouldn’t have kept nearly 6m players at its peak. WoD wouldn’t have brought people back in droves (and then subsequently lost them). Same for Legion and BfA, neither of which mentioned Arthas in their advertising in any way, shape or form.

You’re assuming causality without even establishing effect beyond “well, people played tho!!” An estimated 20 million people saw Warcraft the movie in the theater without a single hint about Arthas existing anywhere in it. If I’m to use your logic and reasoning, I could say “well, clearly half of those people saw that movie because Durotan has a massive fanbase”.

It’s more likely Wrath had such a high subscriber count because it came after the massive successes of Vanilla and TBC. A growing IP tends to grow not because of one character, but because of the IP as a whole.

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Or maybe its more like WOTLK had such a high subscriber count because a multitude of people knew who Arthas was and were super excited that an expansion literally made about him is now playable. But sure… you keep living in your little bubble thinking you have weight to your argument while ignoring the obvious. You can make any argument you want, but that doesn’t meant your argument has any weight to it. Yea WOTLK had casual players. All the expansions did. But if you’re going to try to tell me WOTLK’s majority of players did not play because of Arthas (which also introduced DKs btw) then we’re just going to have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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The projecting here is absolutely real.

Do you have any evidence at all other than “well, I really think so, therefore it must be true”? Because you haven’t cited any. I’ve at least got anecdotal evidence, you only have your own thoughts to speak for over six million people. Go eat a candy bar, you’re not thinking very clearly.

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You’re right. You win. Absolutely no one but maybe 5 people played WOTLK because it was about Arthas. I concede. You have bested me. /endsarcasm

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These are true statements backed up by concrete evidence and science.

They might be one of those who are a bit upset that they didn’t get their Arthas becoming Sylvannas’ jailor fantasy.

No, she’s a Sylvanas fan as well.

I’m going to do an Atlas and shrug.

Maybe. :wolf: :smiley:

Yep! Sure is! I mean what was I thinking. To believe an entire expansion made around WoW’s most popular character could in any way attract a multitude of people to it especially those who played the Frozen Throne. Silly me! :roll_eyes:

I’m actually rather pissed about what happened to Arthas. I’m not Ok with him being gone for good if that is the case. What I really wanted to happen was for both Sylvanas and Arthas to be restored back to their pre-death states and continue on in the story. Oh well.

Which is not a bad thing. Do you think there is something intrinsically wrong with being a Sylvanas fan? Because you seemed to imply that.

No, I was defending you from that accusation. Drahaliana thinks you wanted Arthas to torture Sylvanas.

And that’s fine. Nothing wrong with being angry about how blizz handled Arthas’ story. I know plenty of people who agree with you. I think it ended just fine, but I won’t begrudge you for thinking otherwise :wolf:

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Ohhh! Oops. Wait did they really say that? :rofl: I wanted both Arthas and Sylvanas to forgive each other and be restored back to life.

You silly, Sylvanas was not the center of Wrath!!