There’s no arguing with someone that can’t understand the difference between big changes that fundamentally alter the way the game is played, and small changes that improve quality of life without changing the spirit of the game
You dont get to make any compromises lmfao, youre a nobody.
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If dual specs and buff/debuff limit was the only change we got that would be fine, though we can already read the forums about the desire for ret pally buffs, summ stones, etc. where do you guys who are pro changes draw the line?
Enjoy era kid.
I know what it does for the gameplay experience – it’s a QOL feature. That’s it.
You’re the one crying that it’s an advantage, yet you have once again failed to articulate how it’s a meaningful advantage.
Which is why no one is taking you seriously.
That’s Blizzard’s “subjective opinion”. You know, the people that make the game? They’re the ones saying you don’t matter.
It’s for better especially because it keeps the more toxic of the playerbase away.
I’ll throw that back to you, if you don’t want this change, why not stay in era where this change doesn’t exist? Do you see how dumb that question is now?
Deal with it or find a new game. It’s not changing because you threw a tantrum on the forums lol.
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For anniversary? Or classic plus?
I don’t think there are many who think additional changes are coming to anniversary. The only requests that seem to not be coming from trolls are summoning stones and maybe raid size flexibility.
For classic plus it feels more like it’s all over the map. Personally I’m hoping they try for the best version of each spec up until they started doing borrowed power every expansion. I’m all for new content if they add raids or dungeons, but I personally draw the line at dungeon finder. I’m not playing anymore versions with the toxic griefer lottery in it.
It actually does mean that.
Business 101. Know your customers. You are making a product that you want customers to buy. Question 1: What does your customer want.
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To preserve the integrity of the game and not allow mickey mouse swaps anywhere in the open world, it’s completely unhinged!
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The customers want the version that has been played multiple times over and over, over the course of 2 decades on other servers that were unchanged.
What do you think really showed blizzard? People wanted to play vanilla, and an unchanged, as close to possible, no bug Blizz like private server with the name of Nostalrius freaked Blizzard out so bad, they finally listened to us and made vanilla world of warcraft.
I remember in 2018 debating topics over our beloved classic server we have now. Every single forum I was practically alone with wanting no changes because the retail players thought they knew what was good for vanilla. Everyone said it wouldn’t be successful and would die. How wrong they were.
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Between it, TBC, and Wrath it was the least popular version of Classic
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but this playerbase is already playing retail 
they’re supposed to attract a new segment of players, the ones who like vanilla.
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This isnt vanilla.
Its a seasonal prog server with some changes.
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By what metric? Vanilla pservers were overwhelmingly more popular than TBC and most Wrath projects. Subscriber numbers overtime from when it was current content doesn’t reflect shelf life.
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So are you just agreeing with me?
The hardcore #nochanges crowd has always been obtuse about this point. You have no clue what the #somechanges crowd wants. Either you are trolling, or just not listening.
We don’t want no-changes Vanilla. We also don’t want all-changes Retail. We want a hybrid that bridges the two, combining the best components of each.
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Logs. Classic Era at its peak only slightly beat TBC at its lowest point, and Wrath blew both of them out of the water
Hell I’m pretty sure Cata was even beating Era in T11 for a bit, probably would’ve in T12 too if it had hadn’t been sandwiched in between the anniversary and fresh servers
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Some of us cherish vanilla for what it is and don’t see any reason to change it, as I personally don’t think I could improve a painter’s painting. It’s a piece of art after all. I think you’re the one lacking in understand.
Wanting a better version of WoW because you don’t enjoy retail is admirable, but some of us aren’t okay with sacrificing the legacy servers we asked for over ten years to get.
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TBC and Wrath were current Classic content so I would expect them to have way more players than anyone backtracking to Era, which only had extreme diehards until Ulduar was on farm for most guilds then it saw a huge wave of returning players.
Lots of vanilla players are dad gamers who don’t hardcore raid, where TBC/Wrath endgame is very raid oriented.
We’ll just have to wait till TBC/Wrath era (hopefully) to know for sure.
I feel for you. I can only guess why Blizzard made some changes to Era, and the likeliest reason was because of exit surveys. Nothing gets a company to change their mind about what they are selling other than people who are telling them why they won’t give them their money.
So Blizzard caved and you are stuck with Era as being the closest resemblance to WoW 1.0.
As far as Anniversary and fresh servers, if Blizzard made it Era but fresh, nobody other than Era server players would play it, so either the Era servers would be dead, or very few would be rolling fresh.
The point of Anniversary was to introduce fresh servers that will roll, once again, to TBC, where they are adding a couple significant QoL changes that may be enough for people who are tired of Cata to start back to Stage 1 and play the system again for a few more years.
And what, Era wasn’t in 2019? I’m not talking about logs today, I’m talking about logs from 2019-2021 before TBC Classic launched