my guy.
just stop.
you never shared it
oh, you mean some dude finding a fresh level 60? I get crit for less than 700 by MS by BiS geared players so to do more than double damage the target needs to be pretty fresh!
I linked screenshot proof with a controlled environment, and you also have WCLs, and the devs saying they know it sucks. You lose.
What…the…heck ??? that much damage already? that damage range is almost Wrath territory, I quit SoD back in Phase 4 and damage was not out of control yet…but this is kinda sad to see such amount of damage already.
I don’t have to post anything. You can literally go watch any of keftas shorts he has so many. You can easily watch enough to get a good idea of warrior damage in PVP. He fights other people in full PVP gear all the time. idk where this idea of some fresh 60 came from. But even then, testing damage on a gearless BUM is a better metric than using a PVE target dummy to tell someone what the damage is in PVP.
But as I said before please keep using PVE to tell me what happens in PVP… You know PVP… the thing that you never do…
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The most irritating thing about this is that the warrior is not destitute. The warrior class is a good class, they just need a tiny bump for pvp, and we are not getting it, IT HAS BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE PHASE 1. Warriors have not been good in PvP. The game in PvP for a warrior is just not fun and I refuse to get Rank 14 even when I am already Rank 13. With Ashkandii and T2 6 set core forged 900 gear score I am critting ppl for (armored to unarmored) 800-1500 damage. I also have less than 5k hp. In PvP gear I am critting ppl for 400-1200 damage. I have a screenshot of my MS hitting a druid bear for 289 damage. This is real and when I say these figures people accuse me of lying. Sure I can go around and apply a 50% heal debuff but I am a wet noodle, cant kill anyone and I get zerked in BGs because everyone knows I am a free kill without a shield on. I can edit all my videos like these other warriors that claim Arms is PvP bliss, they are editing out 90% of them getting zoinked by every other class.
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Try using endless rage instead of taste for blood and rock zerker stance and use whirlwind on cooldown, even on single targets. (obviously prioritizing VR, slam, execute, and MS first though). Only use heroic strike over 90 rage. Most warriors I’ve talked to feel stronger with endless rage once they make the switch.
Life giving gem is key. Also swap boots so you can use both enraged regen and rallying cry.
In my opinion PvP gear is far better than pve gear for warrior. Just use core forged belt and bracers.
Most pve warriors that I encounter I crush and walk away with 60%+ health. Sometimes 80% health.
Here are 2 more warriors who post YouTube shorts to showcase warrior’s ability:
@TornadoWoW
@Nuffydeus
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Yeah that’s cool and all the numbers still aren’t there.
Frost mages can kill you during a deep freeze now btw if your trinket is on cd. Glad I’m capped and don’t have to play anymore
I crit cloth for 1100-1500, if I got those numbers on most classes warrior would be pretty solid for a class with 1 usable defensive and 1 that incurs the GCD when you try to use it. It’s just literally, not there.
I did and it was backpeddling priest not using every gcd with less than 3k hp when he crit over 90% of his attacks. I qued for a BG and I was getting MS crit for barely 700 by comparison when every 12 seconds a priest can combo me for 4k.
What you fail to understand is that a 0 armor target in WoW on the realm that the devs use to balance the game can be directly compared to PVP. If MS crits that for 2.5k, raptor strike does 7.8k, and starfire does 10k, you have the raw base values. Add in armor and other modifiers to find the numbers.
But youre just a troll that keeps this threat goin so keep on goin.
We need shattering throw for sure that wotlk ability is a must have for sod pvp to function properly. And reflect shield for extra survivability
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Both of those are pointless. You’ll literally die while channeling shattering throw. And you can’t weapon swap without eating a 1.5s gcd during combat. Why would you want spell reflect?
Like, please, can you guys stop asking for worthless additions to the class? We have enough small things that don’t actually make a difference in the grand scheme of things.
We need colossus smash as a rune on wrists (or another passive form of armor pen), we need impending victory. And we probably need bladestorm. Though I could definitely pass on bladestorm for us to have a fair shot at beating other classes.
Might as well release titans grip then 
The whole nine yards 
I appreciate the input Kefta and I will even try it in BG but i feel like I have tried every armor/talent/rune combination. I have tried gladiator stance in DPS tier gear & PvP gear, PvE tank gear. I have tried 2h arms & fury, same thing swapping runes out and doing a BG and using lifegiving gem with health pots and root tubers to stay alive. I even subbed my pvp trinket with LAPs and try different trinket combos. I have been playing warrior since 2004 beta when I was a kid. It is by far my favorite class. And it has always had a deceptively high skill ceiling. But if other classes can spam 1 or 2 buttons and I have to play the piano I am rerolling to fresh. Only time I can dominate in pvp is if the other player is just not good.
Titan’s grip is a noob trap and absolute garbage. Idk what the obsession has been with that talent but my god I hate it.
The literal only time TG has felt good was with shadowmourne, it’s literally reliant on meme level shenanigans to be as good as everyone thinks it is. I wish I could go back in time, and prevent it from ever existing.
It would have limited PvE usage AT BEST, and does nothing for the issues mentioned in this thread, namely that our damage numbers are frankly garbage outside of raids with wbuffs.
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Titans grip will allow fury to hit hard with the slam, overpower, swing runes etc
YES! I hated titans grip since TBC launched. Your hit % drops even more too I think.
Nobody cares about fury. This is a PvP thread about arms and mortal strike being garbage.
Both of bladestorm and titan should be on the mainhand weapon rune. As well as shockwave transferred to the mh weapon rune
It was - hit until ulduar, then it became a damage reduction.
Really every video he has is just him killing a bad priest? That is impressive. And now the skill of the player is relevant when we are just talking about damage that can be done?
What you fail to understand is that if you can be in FULL BIS PVE GEAR with FULL world buffs dpsing an ARMORLESS target, and only critting for 2.5k. Then it shouldn’t be possible for a warrior in PVP gear with NO WORLD BUFFS to crit 1500+MS vs players with armor… BUT IT HAPPENS. So how can we just base everything of the target dummy when that happens?
If you are so smart then put up the entire mathematical equation that calculates the damage values based off armor, damage reduction, and other variables like buffs and debuffs. Cuz as it stands actual footage of actual PVP vs classes in various scenarios is a way better metric to go by then the pve target dummy.
But your just a BUM that doesn’t PVP.
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No problem. Ya try out arms with endless rage again and hopefully you like it.
Free action potion is your best friend too. And flask of titans.
I don’t need to tell you though, you’ve got way more warrior experience than I do. Respect.
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