I figured that. This server hasn’t been that way that I’ve seen. And it’s a pvp server to boot!
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Hope it stays that way. It’s a nightmare otherwise.
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Idk, drama is always fun too 
I dunno, it seems to be the same both ways, depending on which faction seems to be the majority on the specific server. Just so happens that more servers have Horde majorities.
The hardcore private server players (neckbeards that think playing a PvP game makes them somehow tough/meaningful) have done a good job at ruining the community.
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You keep citing your bad experience as being evidence of someone else’s mistake. Has it occurred to any of you who agree with the OP that the rest of us, including the people at Blizzard, did know this was going to happen and that Blizzard isn’t doing anything about it because they did see this coming? Not only that we saw it coming but this is exactly what we wanted from WoW classic? That it’s you who has made the oversight by not taking 5 minutes to understand exactly what PvP meant on a classic WoW server? That it’s you doing the damage because you think the solution to your bad decision is for Blizzard to restructure their server rules instead of you taking the already available solution of just switching to a server which offers the game play you actually want?
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None of this will matter in 6 days…
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I don’t have a good solution. PVP to PVE server transfers for those interested in it for a limited time would be a start. Blizzard has enough employees who make enough money that a solution, or at least some options shouldn’t be unrealistic.
Ganking is different than raids camping people at every choke point and flight path in a zone.
I joined a pvp server expecting PVP, greifing, ganking, etc, but I didn’t expect literal raids to be doing all of it. You don’t even get a chance to fight back. This isn’t pvp, this is absolute garbage. Toxicity is overflowing because of the amount of people crammed into one small server who all feel like they have a shot at ranking. In time it’ll die down due to people realizing it’s not as easy as they think it is, and bgs will release, but I can’t help but think it all could have been avoided if blizz was just ready for the launch.
I know I wouldn’t be on a high population server if i could have helped it. Joined the newest least populated server the night of launch, grinding for hours and hours with my friends and sat in queues overnight to play more, only to have our server hit max and dozens more open up. The launch set the tone for this phase. They should have know better than to release honor without bgs after cramming so much of the population in so few servers and then acting like it’s their own fault for not wanting to reroll a week after the fact when they released new servers and you’ve used up all your vacation time on a character in a server doomed to be trash.
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We are not being toxic just telling you how it is and if you can’t hang thrn too bad.
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Nobody is asking blizzard to “restructure their server rules”… whatever that means.
Offer PVP to PVE server transfers just like the ones that were available in classic.
Before you complain that it’ll kill the ever so delicate faction balance, so will people quitting and rerolling. There is no good reason to have held back PVP to PVE transfers at this point. The damage is done however, I just hope classic is successful enough to convince blizz to move on to tbc or classic +.
Also there is absolutely no way blizz predicted people would be leaving the game because they literally wouldn’t be able to play from the start of phase 2… I know this because they moved up the dates for BGS in response to what I can only assume is massive decreases in playtime from the userbase.
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You had 50 people in your guild logging in regularly and you couldn’t form a PvP raid? Really?
I have a lot of sympathy for the minority factions on PvP servers at the moment, but dang dude, thats enough people to control and camp any zone well enough to make them rage quit. Start it up!
People actually want to play the game instead of having to spend their time honor farming because it’s the only thing you’re able to do right now.
Just because you’re on a pvp server doesn’t mean you only care about pvp, it’s just an additional aspect of the server. So naturally having 50 people online (most of which aren’t level 60, or are afk anyways) does not equal 50 people who want to go out and hold an area just for fun.
This is my problem with people defending this sad excuse for WPVP. “Oh just get your guild to help” or “oh go make some friends”, well as great as they are at helping when I need it, I shouldn’t have to ask for a 20 person escort to go mine, fish, or run to the entrance of a dungeon.
I love the social and group aspects of wow, but sometimes when you’re playing a game you just want to chill out and do some solo farming.
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I dont think you understood what I was saying… if they are on a PvP server why wouldnt they want to go out and PvP? I cant even wrap my head around the logic here, and I’m really trying. Everyone on PvP servers should of been all jazzed up for this P2 drop. Not going fishing? You had 3 months to fish waiting for the honor system! Time to get that R13 armor!
This has nothing to do with the novel you wrote. Something about escorts and fishing.
I played on a PvP server from the day I started this game, and it never used to be this bad. Sure, there were gang-ups and corpse camping and trash talking, but I think the big thing is that 15 years have passed and now the community is divided between two versions of the game; many people don’t understand you don’t HAVE to choose which is better. Both are great for their own reasons.
I think the community has changed over the years, especially with so many people having played private servers for a decade or more. There’s no real way to get back the true Vanilla experience. It was great back then because it was new and exciting. You’ll never be able to recapture how it felt to play, or how the community was back then. 
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Happened on a
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What’s done is done. Faction balance will only get worse for the sake of “friends playing together” while the game destroys itself.
You don’t get it because you play Horde. When you are outnumbered by hundreds it’s not longer PvP how the game was originally designed. It’s modern day retail servers with the vanilla world and it does not work.
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You rolled a faction on a pvp server that was straight up obvious from pre-regs was going to be the underdog (which means you should have a want to pvp in the first place, being the underdog means you have more people to kill) and then complain about being the underdog after making that decision.
Look to guilds that relish the experience of being the underdog, sure you might die to a 40 man zerg once in a while (spoiler: i do too) but a majority of your experiences will be small group skirmishes where you ARE the underdog and you have to actually work for your wins.
These are issues that were well known WELL BEFORE classic even released, and now you’re complaining because you ignored it for too long.
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Let’s be real. 2019 gamers thinking they’d be hip, cool and edgy rolling on pvp servers but not actually being able to handle the heat. Pve servers are called normal servers for a reason; that’s where the majority of the player base should be. Normal servers even have ‘war mode’. You can opt in or out of pvp whenever it suits you. You perceive everyone as toxic because you chose the wrong server type.
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And yet, those phrases we are hearing since WOTLK every day. The community is like that, in every single game. That´s what social media and attention seeking streamers do to people.
Did you honestly think, it won´t happen at Vanilla?
So it is at retail. People are not used to wiping or working together, that´s just what it is. Many are using the LFG addon and hop into a new group immediately, so why be kind and nice?
The PVE folks are right though. There are servers without world pvp and you guys did not pick them.
Not really.
The community has been dead right from the start, thanks to streamer fanboys, layering exploits, no bans for VIP´s, that used exploits to get gear and XP, farm spots were abused by layering, no 1.1. release, but a nerfed 1.12 and so on.
You know what´s truly an issue, playing on an RP realm and nobody does care about RP. You can´t blame the RP players to pick their home, while others ruin it. But you can blame pve players picking a pvp realm, while not understanding what it does.
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